Hollywood Brown to the Chiefs

[RunKC]

A new weapon for Patrick Mahomes: Former Ravens and Cardinals WR Marquise “Hollywood” Brown is expected to sign a one-year deal with the Kansas City Chiefs, per sources.

During is final season in Baltimore in 2021, Brown had 91 catches for 1,008 yards and six touchdowns. During… pic.twitter.com/oGD82iazKb

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 15, 2024

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Question's a little too broad.

In the first, probably none of them. I think I'm moving away from a 1st round WR and would prefer we go with an OT. I think I like Morgan the most from a combination of ceiling/floor. And if the OT hits and Morris continues to develop, we can move one of those guys into play OG when Smith walks next season.

In the 2nd - really depends on the board. But I think my preference at the moment is 'Tez Walker.

If we wait until the 2nd, I hope Malachi Corley somehow drops to us.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think they pivoted to the model they did out of necessity, not necessarily out of choice, because of what was available. Which is....well smart. Take the guys you have an opportunity to get, build to their skillset and move forward.

If they have a guy they think can be a legit deep threat, top off big play guy, take him and do it. I don't know if that's Worthy or not, but the theory of it would make sense.

Reid has literally never done that, though.

He's always had complementary outside guys. I think his 'perfect world' WR corps is probably the Maclin/Jackson duo. When he had Tyreek Hill and essentially a blank check, he went Hill/Watkins. I think that's the archetype he'd be looking to rebuild here.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Jerm

If we wait until the 2nd, I hope Malachi Corley somehow drops to us.

"Somehow drops to us"

Corley is like the 15th best WR in this draft.

He should make it to us fairly easily. And I hope we learn from past mistakes and draft someone else. Corley is Skyy Moore 2.0. Small school receivers without standout measurables and no route tree to speak of are NOT 2nd round picks.

He's a 2 year developmental project. You start looking at those guys in the 3rd and you're pleased if you can manage to get them in the 4th.

[Sassy Squatch]

Nah, there's not a record breaking 40 every year. That's pretty special. Regardless, it really shouldn't matter because OT is of paramount importance given how uncertain the entire OL will be outside of Taylor come the 2025 off season.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Reid has literally never done that, though.

He's always had complementary outside guys. I think his 'perfect world' WR corps is probably the Maclin/Jackson duo. When he had Tyreek Hill and essentially a blank check, he went Hill/Watkins. I think that's the archetype he'd be looking to rebuild here.

That's what I was saying (badly). I think they want complimentary guys, but they will roll with whatever they get.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He should.

There will be another Worthy next season. Every year there's another fast, slight WR.

Again, we had literally this exact same conversation about Jalin Hyatt last season. And now there's a faster version of him in Worthy this season. And next year there's gonna be another someone who runs really fast and weighs a buck seventy.

These guys exist in every single draft. Take them when you need them. With the Brown signing, we don't need them this year. If you're going to 'redshirt' someone, don't redshirt a speed guy. Redshirt someone like Walker or Leggett who may need some time to understand the nuances of the offense and can take on a more varied role when they do.

There’s one this year and we met with him. Anthony Gould.

He is shorter than Worthy but weighs more. He’s ran a 4.39 but his 10 yard split was the same 1.49 that Worthy put up. He’s got elite explosiveness. Kid is probably a 3rd-4th rd pick if I had to guess.

As for Hollywood, we could extend him next year bc Kelce is almost done and even he knows it. I’d give it 2 more years max before his body can’t keep up anymore. Those injuries started last year and he needed a load management game despite not playing week 1.

Veach signing Irv Smith signals that for me. First time he’s really put effort into TE3 instead of Blake Bell (God he’s slow) or a reclamation project (hi Jody Fortson). Think he knows Kelce is gonna be on a pitch count this year. And let’s be honest: they aren’t gonna keep and pay a 37 year old TE. Even Kelce.

If Kelce’s last year is 2025 you could give Hollywood a 3 year deal Veach loves to do. First year cap hit would be low for Kelce’s last season and then Kelce’s retired and his money goes to Hollywood in 2026.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Would still rather try to use this season to draft someone who has a better size/speed combination.

Then I can use this season to work him into the offense, get him up to speed and have him at full gallop next season. And if Brown is an ideal fit and we can retain him somehow, we're at 3 complementary guys. If Brown doesn't work out as well as we'd hoped, we had an understudy that can come in and we can draft a new deep threat NEXT season.

Same thought I had last year - draft your deep guy when you NEED your deep guy; that was why I loved the Rice pick over the board consensus in Hyatt.

Unless you're going to pivot to an offense that's predicated on speed out wide and move Rice into a heavy slot role more often. If we do that, I can see Worthy being someone we're looking at in the 1st.

But I kinda doubt we will. It's an awfully massive pivot for a team coming off back to back SB wins.

This is exactly how I feel. Collect WRs that are more versatile and if you can get a pure burner, great. Mahomes/Reid have shown that they don't have to do it one way.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by RunKC

There’s one this year and we met with him. Anthony Gould.

He is shorter than Worthy but weighs more. He’s ran a 4.39 but his 10 yard split was the same 1.49 that Worthy put up. He’s got elite explosiveness. Kid is probably a 3rd-4th rd pick if I had to guess.

As for Hollywood, we could extend him next year bc Kelce is almost done and even he knows it. I’d give it 2 more years max before his body can’t keep up anymore. Those injuries started last year and he needed a load management game despite not playing week 1.

Veach signing Irv Smith signals that for me. First time he’s really put effort into TE3 instead of Blake Bell (God he’s slow) or a reclamation project (hi Jody Fortson). Think he knows Kelce is gonna be on a pitch count this year. And let’s be honest: they aren’t gonna keep and pay a 37 year old TE. Even Kelce.

If Kelce’s last year is 2025 you could give Hollywood a 3 year deal Veach loves to do. First year cap hit would be low for Kelce’s last season and then Kelce’s retired and his money goes to Hollywood in 2026.

He’s definitely my pick for a late round WR if we decide to go with two. He can sit on the back end of your WR room and return punts/kicks.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Question's a little too broad.

In the first, probably none of them. I think I'm moving away from a 1st round WR and would prefer we go with an OT. I think I like Morgan the most from a combination of ceiling/floor. And if the OT hits and Morris continues to develop, we can move one of those guys into play OG when Smith walks next season.

In the 2nd - really depends on the board. But I think my preference at the moment is 'Tez Walker.

Wouldn’t mind Tez Walker but my God I need to convert you guys to the Roman Wilson hype machine.

He is such a good fit for us

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by tredadda

If I am not mistaken, Toney costs the same whether he's on the team or cut. They save almost a million by cutting Moore. Toney is also more talented, so if they had to cut one it would be Moore.

Why would they save more by cutting Moore and not Toney? One has two years left, the other has 1 year and both are on rookie deals. I would honestly pay them to go away. They are a detriment to this team.

[Dante84]

Marquise Brown's #Chiefs Contract
▪️1 year, $7 million
▪️$6.5M guaranteed
▪️$4M of incentives available
▪️$1.25M LTBE incentives

2024 Cap Hit: $8.2M

Full Breakdown: https://t.co/nqO46VfgDc

— Spotrac (@spotrac) March 19, 2024

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

That's what I was saying (badly). I think they want complimentary guys, but they will roll with whatever they get.

Ah.

Yeah, I just think they presently have their complementary duo and now they'll look to continue to broaden/deepen the rest of the WR room with guys who can give us different looks this year. And when they don't have that complementary speed guy next year if Hollywood doesn't work or is too expensive, then they'll find someone else.

Look at it this way - when they went DE in the first round, did they get a guy who played the same style as GK or Omenihu? No, they didn't. They took a guy who presented a different option to their starters who could develop in that rotational role and potentially step up.

He didn't step up, but you can see what their plan was. And I think that's going to be the plan again. I mean it's not like they had Omenihu inked to a 4 year deal or anything; guy had a 2 year contract. He was still going to be viewed as a short-timer.

You take someone like Worthy this year and he doesn't give you a different look from Brown. He's the same dude, IMO. Higher ceiling, but same guy. I just don't think they're looking to go 'developmental' with that 1st round pick if they don't think that development can also potentially add something to this year's roster.

Worthy wouldn't if Brown is healthy and productive, IMO. Walker, Leggette, Pearsal, Wilson, even McConkey or Coleman would (and I don't love either of those guys).

I think Mitchell is ultimately the wild card. If he fell to 32 I could see them liking his combination of traits and size enough to take him at 32 knowing he won't be there at 64. But personally, I don't see enough distinction between him and Walker or Leggette to take him in the 1st rather than one of those guys in the 2nd.

Then again, let's say you take Mitchell in the first and Amegadjie or Patrick Paul in the 2nd. That's not a worse outcome than Morgan in the 1st and Walker in the 2nd. You're just shifting your risk/reward around a little.

It's just gonna depend on the board. If Mitchell's not there and Morgan is, I think the decision gets made for you. If Morgan's not there and Mitchell is, same story.

And hell, when it's all said and done, maybe they're both gone and it ends up being Darius Robinson and we all wasted a bunch of effort on irrelevant thought experiments.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Wouldn’t mind Tez Walker but my God I need to convert you guys to the Roman Wilson hype machine.

He is such a good fit for us

I'm not opposed to Roman Wilson...I think he's one of the more underrated WRs in this draft.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Wouldn’t mind Tez Walker but my God I need to convert you guys to the Roman Wilson hype machine.

He is such a good fit for us

Wouldn't mind him at all, but I wouldn't use a 1st on him and I think he's probably gone by 50. Good polish for a guy with his agility/speed. Nice prospect but lacks the ceiling of a 1st rounder.

He reminds me a bit of Emeka Egbuka before Ebuka decided to stay at Ohio State for a year. Similar sort of fluid route runner and smart player.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Hollywood said he thought KC was going to draft him and obviously they liked the player enough to sign him the first chance they got...

So are we supposed to believe they won't have equally strong feelings about Worthy? Cause I think for the most part, that's the same player.

You could use Worthy year one with low pressure, just be the guy that can blow the top off any given play, and groom him to take over Hollywood's role in 2025 if and when he prices himself out. Learn a thing or two about how Hollywood navigates playing in the league at 170 lbs.

I think there's room for another speed guy. Just make life that much easier on Rice and Kelce; and Hollywood for that matter. When you've got one of these three or so freak of nature QB arms, it's fine and logical.