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Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-05-2013, 02:59 PM

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Alex Smith's Accuracy Sparks Chiefs Practice
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aaKansas City Chiefs QB Alex Smith wowed the crowd with pinpoint throws

Kansas City Chiefs QB Alex Smith didn't care that the skies were again overcast during practice on Monday; likely because his accurate throws would've outshined the sun, had it made an appearance.

Smith was on-point, nearly perfect, unofficially completing 17 of 20 passes for three TDs during the roughly two-and-a-half hour practice.

"It’s a reflection of the group,” Smith said. “O-line was great today; it starts with them. They did a good job communicating, especially in the blitz period, third down, everybody was on the same page and then there were guys making plays outside. We got off to a good start but really, I think the spark came from the guys up-front."

Among the many pass-catchers Smith connected with on Monday, Chiefs TE Anthony Fasano continues to play at a very-high level. Smith threw to Fasano three-straight times, late in practice, including one TD.

"He's such a dependable guy, so reliable," Smith said of Fasano. "He has such a great knowledge of the game, a great feel for it, defenses and how they’re playing him and he uses his body so well. He continues to make tough catches. He’s what you’re looking for in a TE, that reliable guy that continues to be open, time after time."

Another of Smith's targets was Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe, whose best catch on Monday was a one-handed grab in 7-on-7s.

"That’s just him making me look good," Smith said. "There’s not much to it. I threw it up there and let him do the rest."

Bowe described the play from a different perspective.

"No, man," Bowe said of Smith's pass. "He put the ball right on the outside; he saw the inside leverage, and our job is to catch the ball; it happened to be a one-handed catch, but it was a great pass by Alex."

Bowe also shared how he's feeling just days away from the team's first preseason game of the year.

"I’m feeling good,” Bowe said. "We’re going against the best every day at practice, so when we get to the games, we will be ready."

Following Smith, Chiefs QB Chase Daniel stepped in Monday and continues to move the ball effectively, highlighted by his completion to a determined Chiefs TE Tony Moeaki on a third-down play in the red zone.

"Chase did a great job of getting the ball out quick," Moeaki said. "I was just trying to get the ball vertical and it was a third-down play, so getting the first down in the red zone, that’s huge. We as a TE group feel that’s where our number should be called; we’re just trying to help the team score."

Later in 11-on-11s, Chiefs QB Ricky Stanzi closed out the drill with a beauty of a throw for a TD to Chiefs rookie WR Frankie Hammond Jr.

"It was a great throw by Ricky,” Hammond Jr. said. "I kind of pinned the guy inside and he just made a great throw and I went up and got it."

Like the other Chiefs rookies, Hammond Jr. is ready and waiting for his opportunity to shine on Friday night.

"Definitely,” Hammond Jr said. "It’s just ‘lay it out all on the table’; you’ll only get so many opportunities in these preseason games, so when we get out there, we have to make the most of them and go out there and play hard."

The team played hard yet again today, which caught the eye of Chiefs head coach Andy Reid.

"Good work today," coach Reid said.

"This is our fifth day in a row of full contact and going. This is our longest stretch; we’ll have another day tomorrow. So, the guys pushed through a big red zone day today, big 3RD-and-long day today. I thought they traded back and forth, challenging each other and working hard.”

Part of the hard work paid off for the defense in 11-on-11s, when Chiefs DB Otha Foster III was in the right place at the right time for his pick-six INT.

"I was playing free," Foster III said. "The guy dragged across and the QB threw it to him, bounced off his shoulder and landed in my hands. We were going full contact, all the way, tackling to the ground and that’s why I ran it all the way back."

Foster hopes to carry the defensive momentum with him into Friday's road game against the Saints.

"I feel good about that because it’s close to my hometown in Louisiana," he said. "I’m going to have a lot of family there and they love the Saints, except when I’m playing; they’ll be on my side (on) Friday.”

The Chiefs return to the practice field tomorrow, before a day off on Wednesday, travel day to New Orleans on Thursday and then, the real fun begins Friday night at 7:00 PM CDT, from the Mercedes-Benz

Messier · 08-07-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

He fell all the way through the draft, so yes, he most certainly did fall into their laps.

All they had to do is offer the right $$$, which is something Clark has shown repeatedly that he has no problem doing. He is not cheap, and I've never said as much.

But it's still a zero risk move. That's my point. They are, historically, terrified of making any draft day move for a QB. They're risk-averse to the point of paralysis. You provided the link to drafthistory earlier, how about you pull out the last 30+ years of drafting for this franchise and see what you get.

And I hope he turns into the biggest lightning-in-a-bottle story since Kurt Warner, because they really did luck out, getting first round physical measurables like his without spending a pick. I still can't believe somebody didn't draft him, and he'll be a real coup if they can resolve whatever it is that's going on between his ears that led the league to drop him out of the draft.

What do that last 30 years of Chiefs drafts have to do with anything? To you think the Hunt family tells every new GM to not take a QB?

keg in kc · 08-07-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, he could have signed with 31 other teams.

Yes, he fell into the laps of the entire freaking league, and we outbid them.

It's simple, I know you can grasp this: did they spend a draft pick on him? No.

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Who cares? They've acquired QB's through free agency and trades. The only acquisition in the past 30 years, other than Blackledge, that could be deemed a massive failure was Matt Cassel.

It doesn't matter how you acquire a QB. It doesn't matter how any player is acquired. All that matters is that the player(s) performs to expectation.

Montana performed. Grbac performed. Gannon performed. Green performed.

Cassel did not.

Grbac and Gannon are nobodies. The fact that this fanbase continues to be obsessed with either one of them shows us just how pathetic the QB position has been here.

In any case, I am not saying that there's anything wrong with the way Bray was acquired. In fact, I love the way he was acquired. I believe I even used the word "coup" in my last post.

The point that I'm making, because apparently you're completely missing it, is that it's an extension of an established trend with rookie quarterbacks here that reaches back 30 years, and can't at this point be taken as any kind of indication that anything has changed. Everything this offseason indicates to me that this franchise still favors "safe" veteran quarterbacks (quarterbacks who themselves play a risk-averse style of football, but that's another discussion...) over young quarterbacks. And nothing makes me think that they'll be going out of their way to acquire a QBotF anytime soon (hopefully we'll get lucky they won't have to, and Bray can fill that role).

That's where this part of the discussion started - I was chastized for not believing that this front office has changed the team's traditional approach to the quarterback position - and that's where I've kept it.

Sandy Vagina · 08-07-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

That sounds like a damn fine "alex smith sucks and we know it" play call.

... and so Jim will suck him off to stay a 49er and will pay him the 3rd highest SF salary just to set up a punt?

Yeah.. I think you are off somewhere on this one.

keg in kc · 08-07-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

What do that last 30 years of Chiefs drafts have to do with anything? To you think the Hunt family tells every new GM to not take a QB?

No. I don't think that.

I suppose the best way to put that is that I do think ownership sort of guides the direction the franchise goes. I think they have a team philosophy in mind, and I think they hire people who'll fit it. And I think a part of that philosophy is that ownership wants a veteran behind center. I think that's our approach as a team, and that's why I don't expect them to ever spend a high draft pick on a QB. That's why, in fact, I didn't expect them to spend one on the position this year, regardless of the strengths or weaknesses of the draft class.

Hope in time they prove me wrong. But I'll be surprised if they ever do.

**Mav** · 08-07-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

That sounds like a damn fine "alex smith sucks and we know it" play call.

ummmmm.

Just take a guess at what down this was.......

Hammock Parties · 08-07-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

... and so Jim will suck him off to stay a 49er and will pay him the 3rd highest SF salary just to set up a punt?

Yeah.. I think you are off somewhere on this one.

Huh?

Jim wanted nothing to do with Alex as soon as he had a better option.

You lose this argument.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 08-07-2013, 06:31 PM

I can recall reading Lamar saying he wanted a "franchise running back" and that is one of the reasons Larry Johnson was drafted. Guess Priest didn't fit the bill. anywho the owner made a request and it was granted.

**Mav** · 08-07-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Huh?

Jim wanted nothing to do with Alex as soon as he had a better option.

You lose this argument.

No. Just no.....Im not going into this again. You are wrong. Completely wrong......WRONG.

Jim had already made up his mind that Kaep was his guy, before Alex Smith ever talked with Jim. Do some research....PFF prolly wouldn't be the place to go though.

Sandy Vagina · 08-07-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Huh?

Jim wanted nothing to do with Alex as soon as he had a better option.

You lose this argument.

So, Jim felt the younger, more dynamic QB was the right choice over the QB that was leading the league in passer rating and a 6-2 record. It was a bold and betraying decision that a dick like Jim would make. So what? He was fixated on Kaepernick, and Kaep has amazing potential. That doesn't take away from Alex being a damn good QB in his own right.

So no, I most certainly don't "lose this argument", lolz... what a 12 year old thing to say.

**the Talking Can** · 08-07-2013, 06:36 PM

the hunt family is absolutely the reason we've never drafted a QB in 3 decades

they're as ****ing clueless about the importance of the position, and how you address it, as the true fans...and worse, they know the true fan's heart: it is risk averse, much more interested in minimizing risk than maximizing potential

at any point they could have insisted we draft one, or make a hiring contingent on the understanding that we were going to draft one...

they are the only consistent variable over time

O.city · 08-07-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

No. Just no.....Im not going into this again. You are wrong. Completely wrong......WRONG.

Jim had already made up his mind that Kaep was his guy, before Alex Smith ever talked with Jim. Do some research....PFF prolly wouldn't be the place to go though.

So he was done with him before he had a chance to coach him?

Hammock Parties · 08-07-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Jim had already made up his mind that Kaep was his guy, before Alex Smith ever talked with Jim.

Well then...you're really not doing yourself any favors at all, then.

Alex is trash that was tolerated only long enough to give a real QB time to get settled.

Sounds like a guy we really want in KC.

keg in kc · 08-07-2013, 06:44 PM

Last thing I'm going to say on this, I've got to get out on my bike, and I'm spending way too much time talking about this (it's not like anything I say can change what the Chiefs do...):

I don't like the veteran philosophy because I don't believe it's viable as a long-term solution. I think you can have limited short-term success, but I think to turn a franchise into a consistent, year-in-year-out winner you must find and develop your own quarterback. So in that sense, I do think it matters where and how you acquire a player. As I've said before, you just can't get a franchise quarterback through free agency or via trade unless it's an extremely rare situation, like Trent Green in 2001 (although he was a bit up there in years), or like Drew Brees, a situation where a team has two viable starters, and can afford to sacrifice one. (And hopefully Alex Smith will prove to be a player of that ilk, although I question the odds there). And even a situation like that is a short term fix, where you're basically picking up someone else's table scraps.

What I think we need is to find a guy to be the face of the team for a decade. And I think they need to look for that constantly. Even with Alex Smith on the team. I think there needs to be a never-ending drive to find the next Brady/Manning/Rodgers. I think that's what it takes to be a winning franchise over the long haul.

But the franchise has never shown any indication that they value the position on a long-term basis like that. They seem to think they can re-load every 5 years with the veteran flavor of the month. And I think until that changes, the odds of any kind of long-term, repeated success are limited at best.

Sandy Vagina · 08-07-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So he was done with him before he had a chance to coach him?

Probably saying that he wanted a good QB to stop-gap for a potentially great one. So he kissed Alex's ass to stay.. while all along.. planned for more in the near future.. enter 2nd rd Kaepernick. And when Alex gave him far more than Jim expected of him? He got nervous about his true plan A getting derailed... so he yanked the carpet from Alex the first chance he got... concussion.

Tombstone RJ · 08-07-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Well since they, in conjunction with bettors, are largely the ones doing the [mis]judging at this point, . . . yeah.

...wait, what?

08-05-2013, 02:59 PM
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1340477	Alex Smiths accuracy wowing fans http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...a-a4b423d11a12 Alex Smith's Accuracy Sparks Chiefs Practice Posted 1 hour ago Reid Ferrin Chiefs Insider KCChiefs.com Email @KCChiefs_Reid aaKansas City Chiefs QB Alex Smith wowed the crowd with pinpoint throws Kansas City Chiefs QB Alex Smith didn't care that the skies were again overcast during practice on Monday; likely because his accurate throws would've outshined the sun, had it made an appearance. Smith was on-point, nearly perfect, unofficially completing 17 of 20 passes for three TDs during the roughly two-and-a-half hour practice. "It’s a reflection of the group,” Smith said. “O-line was great today; it starts with them. They did a good job communicating, especially in the blitz period, third down, everybody was on the same page and then there were guys making plays outside. We got off to a good start but really, I think the spark came from the guys up-front." Among the many pass-catchers Smith connected with on Monday, Chiefs TE Anthony Fasano continues to play at a very-high level. Smith threw to Fasano three-straight times, late in practice, including one TD. "He's such a dependable guy, so reliable," Smith said of Fasano. "He has such a great knowledge of the game, a great feel for it, defenses and how they’re playing him and he uses his body so well. He continues to make tough catches. He’s what you’re looking for in a TE, that reliable guy that continues to be open, time after time." Another of Smith's targets was Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe, whose best catch on Monday was a one-handed grab in 7-on-7s. "That’s just him making me look good," Smith said. "There’s not much to it. I threw it up there and let him do the rest." Bowe described the play from a different perspective. "No, man," Bowe said of Smith's pass. "He put the ball right on the outside; he saw the inside leverage, and our job is to catch the ball; it happened to be a one-handed catch, but it was a great pass by Alex." Bowe also shared how he's feeling just days away from the team's first preseason game of the year. "I’m feeling good,” Bowe said. "We’re going against the best every day at practice, so when we get to the games, we will be ready." Following Smith, Chiefs QB Chase Daniel stepped in Monday and continues to move the ball effectively, highlighted by his completion to a determined Chiefs TE Tony Moeaki on a third-down play in the red zone. "Chase did a great job of getting the ball out quick," Moeaki said. "I was just trying to get the ball vertical and it was a third-down play, so getting the first down in the red zone, that’s huge. We as a TE group feel that’s where our number should be called; we’re just trying to help the team score." Later in 11-on-11s, Chiefs QB Ricky Stanzi closed out the drill with a beauty of a throw for a TD to Chiefs rookie WR Frankie Hammond Jr. "It was a great throw by Ricky,” Hammond Jr. said. "I kind of pinned the guy inside and he just made a great throw and I went up and got it." Like the other Chiefs rookies, Hammond Jr. is ready and waiting for his opportunity to shine on Friday night. "Definitely,” Hammond Jr said. "It’s just ‘lay it out all on the table’; you’ll only get so many opportunities in these preseason games, so when we get out there, we have to make the most of them and go out there and play hard." The team played hard yet again today, which caught the eye of Chiefs head coach Andy Reid. "Good work today," coach Reid said. "This is our fifth day in a row of full contact and going. This is our longest stretch; we’ll have another day tomorrow. So, the guys pushed through a big red zone day today, big 3RD-and-long day today. I thought they traded back and forth, challenging each other and working hard.” Part of the hard work paid off for the defense in 11-on-11s, when Chiefs DB Otha Foster III was in the right place at the right time for his pick-six INT. "I was playing free," Foster III said. "The guy dragged across and the QB threw it to him, bounced off his shoulder and landed in my hands. We were going full contact, all the way, tackling to the ground and that’s why I ran it all the way back." Foster hopes to carry the defensive momentum with him into Friday's road game against the Saints. "I feel good about that because it’s close to my hometown in Louisiana," he said. "I’m going to have a lot of family there and they love the Saints, except when I’m playing; they’ll be on my side (on) Friday.” The Chiefs return to the practice field tomorrow, before a day off on Wednesday, travel day to New Orleans on Thursday and then, the real fun begins Friday night at 7:00 PM CDT, from the Mercedes-Benz
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	the hunt family is absolutely the reason we've never drafted a QB in 3 decades they're as **ing clueless about the importance of the position, and how you address it, as the true fans...and worse, they know the true fan's heart: it is risk averse, much more interested in minimizing risk than maximizing potential at any point they could have insisted we draft one, or make a hiring contingent on the understanding that we were going to draft one... they are the only consistent variable over time __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"**
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Last thing I'm going to say on this, I've got to get out on my bike, and I'm spending way too much time talking about this (it's not like anything I say can change what the Chiefs do...): I don't like the veteran philosophy because I don't believe it's viable as a long-term solution. I think you can have limited short-term success, but I think to turn a franchise into a consistent, year-in-year-out winner you must find and develop your own quarterback. So in that sense, I do think it matters where and how you acquire a player. As I've said before, you just can't get a franchise quarterback through free agency or via trade unless it's an extremely rare situation, like Trent Green in 2001 (although he was a bit up there in years), or like Drew Brees, a situation where a team has two viable starters, and can afford to sacrifice one. (And hopefully Alex Smith will prove to be a player of that ilk, although I question the odds there). And even a situation like that is a short term fix, where you're basically picking up someone else's table scraps. What I think we need is to find a guy to be the face of the team for a decade. And I think they need to look for that constantly. Even with Alex Smith on the team. I think there needs to be a never-ending drive to find the next Brady/Manning/Rodgers. I think that's what it takes to be a winning franchise over the long haul. But the franchise has never shown any indication that they value the position on a long-term basis like that. They seem to think they can re-load every 5 years with the veteran flavor of the month. And I think until that changes, the odds of any kind of long-term, repeated success are limited at best.
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