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Old 05-03-2023, 05:13 PM  
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:30 AM   #706
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You realize Reid said he watched his film and he wanted to bring him in, right? I mean that's more than enough for me to believe he can do the job, because I think Andy Reid has seen a football game or two in his lifetime.
There's definitely talent there, yes, but it comes with multiple caveats. And Reid is absolutely well within his rights to coach speak, but the facts of the matter that we signed him AFTER the draft on an incentive laden deal make it pretty clear we're down to plan C or D at LT for 2023.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:30 AM   #707
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So again, we’re getting a significantly cheaper version of Orlando Brown Jr, except he’s more athletic?

Orlando Brown had the most pressures given up by an OL in the beginning of December (39 at the time). He was terrible.

His total pressure rate was 6.49% which was at the very top of the league.

So again. We’re getting the same thing but at 1/3 the price that the asshole we sent packing wanted? And this is terrible considering the market huh?
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:36 AM   #708
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Jesus Christ, listen to yourself. "We're getting the same quality of bottom tier play but only a 3rd of the price."

Yeah, no. I wanted a much better LT, not a cheaper variant of Brown Jr. I don't get why that's so unreasonable.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:57 AM   #709
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There's definitely talent there, yes, but it comes with multiple caveats. And Reid is absolutely well within his rights to coach speak, but the facts of the matter that we signed him AFTER the draft on an incentive laden deal make it pretty clear we're down to plan C or D at LT for 2023.
What do you think Plan A and B were?
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Jesus Christ, listen to yourself. "We're getting the same quality of bottom tier play but only a 3rd of the price."

Yeah, no. I wanted a much better LT, not a cheaper variant of Brown Jr. I don't get why that's so unreasonable.
And there’s no avenue for that.

They aren’t giving up a fortune of draft capitol to move up for a LT
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What do you think Plan A and B were?
Plan A was Orlando Brown. Once it was clear he and his agent were still operating on not such good faith we went and got Taylor as a RT and maybe still as a contingency for LT and pivoted to the draft. Or at least I'd assume that. Given we weren't all that interested in signing Smith until after the draft if assume things didn't go ideally there either.
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You should be happy Brown isn't back, his age and play style won't age well and if he plays after he crosses 30 it'll be as a guard.
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:12 PM   #713
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Jesus Christ, listen to yourself. "We're getting the same quality of bottom tier play but only a 3rd of the price."

Yeah, no. I wanted a much better LT, not a cheaper variant of Brown Jr. I don't get why that's so unreasonable.
Easy: salary cap and draft capital constraints.
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I wonder if KC really offered the deal to Brown last year that was reported. There were other reports that KC offered much less and those reports align closer to what Orlando ended up getting this year.
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:19 PM   #715
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What do you think Plan A and B were?
Let's say that Plan B, if not Plan A was move Taylor to LT and he turns out to be just as dominant pass blocking on the left as he is on the right and KC has a very competitively priced LT for the next several years that has the ability to keep up with Mahomes when he scrambles around?

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Plan A was Orlando Brown. Once it was clear he and his agent were still operating on not such good faith we went and got Taylor as a RT and maybe still as a contingency for LT and pivoted to the draft. Or at least I'd assume that. Given we weren't all that interested in signing Smith until after the draft if assume things didn't go ideally there either.
I hope not.
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I hope not.
It was. It's not even questionable. We tagged him to play LT for at least 2023. Only when it became obvious he and his agent were still operating like complete douche**** did Veach rescind the tag and pivot elsewhere.
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On the main Bengals board, they're going nuts looking at how badly Smith rated by PFF measures last year...

While completely ignoring Orlando Brown's grades...

It's ironic.
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On the main Bengals board, they're going nuts looking at how badly Smith rated by PFF measures last year...

While completely ignoring Orlando Brown's grades...

It's ironic.
Didn't OBJ grade quite a lot better?
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