***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Just got back from Sam's Club and they are OUT of Diet Dr. Pepper.

Had to buy Coke Zero.

These are dark times.

[Titty Meat]

hydroxychloroquine gonna save the world

[eDave]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

barter system in place before a societal Breakdown?

We need TP. Sisco can't fullfil orders.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Or maybe consider the possibility that this is being sensationalized by the media and many people are panicking and making dumb predictions based on fear.

I don’t get this argument. Why do people keep saying it’s the media.

Every possible hurricane and snowstorm I’ve even been around results in a run on grocery store items. People start horading. If it happens every time, in all states, It’s human nature, not the media.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by burt

Okay, Bud.

Nope...not cheered up....

I wouldn't even know if you died.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That won't work. The virus will just continue to spread at a rapid rate if we do that and hospitals would get overwhelmed.

The overwhelming majority of people under 65 that don’t have an underlying condition don’t need to go to the hospital for this.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Just got back from Sam's Club and they are OUT of Diet Dr. Pepper.

Had to buy Coke Zero.

These are dark times.

Whatever happened to Dr. Pepper 10?

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I don’t get this argument. Why do people keep saying it’s the media.

Every possible hurricane and snowstorm I’ve even been around results in a run on grocery store items. People start horading. If it happens every time, in all states, It’s human nature, not the media.

That’s because the vast majority of people are stupid.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

China, a country of a billion people, only has 81,000 confirmed cases and you think we at least triple that with a third of the population?

We’ve nearly reached their high point in new cases (not counting the day where they re-allocated cases based on how they were recording positive results) and we’re only a few days into our social distancing campaign. This is partially due to more testing and partially due to the spread, but we will likely have much higher rates of infection.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

The overwhelming majority of people under 65 that don’t have an underlying condition don’t need to go to the hospital for this.

Enough would have to go thay our hospitals wouldn't be able to handle it. This country barely had enough doctors even before this virus hit the USA.

Just think how much this virus would spread if everyone was out like normal. It would be a disaster.

[burt]

Originally Posted by eDave

I wouldn't even know if you died.

Oh, that hurt.

Please forgive me for making a play on words. BUT, I will put it in my will to have you contacted in the case of my demise.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I don’t get this argument. Why do people keep saying it’s the media.

Every possible hurricane and snowstorm I’ve even been around results in a run on grocery store items. People start horading. If it happens every time, in all states, It’s human nature, not the media.

Every hurricane and snowstorm is also sensationalized by the media.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eDave

We need TP. Sisco can't fullfil orders.

the system isn’t made for that. Same with gas. If everyone wants to buy it right now, there are shortages. Supply eventually catches up.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Enough would have to go thay our hospitals wouldn't be able to handle it. This country barely had enough doctors even before this virus hit the USA.

Just think how much this virus would spread if everyone was out like normal. It would be a disaster.

Do you have any proof of this? Any numbers to back this up? How many people can each hospital hold? How many people would be in each hospital?

[tk13]

Right on the heels of the Lakers news.

Celtics guard Marcus Smart announces he has tested positive for coronavirus.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) March 19, 2020