Chiefs Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter offense" - Page 49

Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-21-2013, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I am quietly optimistic about this year as well. But I have a hard time figuring out if that's because I'm a homer who gets amped every year around this time no matter who our QB is, or if it's because I really believe we can do some damage this year. I'm damaged goods. I see two ways: Smith plays above expectations, the Dline impresses, a #2 WR steps up along with our OL gelling and we win the division or get a WC. Or the opposite lol. Ugh.

Can't be excited just yet. We have to wait for the reports on Baldwin and Poe wreaking havoc in shorts before that can happen. It happens to me every year.

keg in kc · 07-21-2013, 05:46 AM

Smith was talking up Baldwin on 810 Friday afternoon.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-21-2013, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Smith was talking up Baldwin on 810 Friday afternoon.

Excitement growing....

O.city · 07-21-2013, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Well, the guy he hired as a consultant in Chris Ault, completely changed his offensive mindset and philosophy almost overnight in 2005 after watching the success of the Urban Meyer spread system when he brought in the Pistol at the age of 60 when he, after being Nevada's Athletic Director from 1985 to 2004. (He was also football coach from '76 to '92 and for the '94/'95 season.)

People change and Reid is a pretty smart and football savvy guy. I think it's pretty obvious why he brought in Ault and Childress - to change up his Edwards west coast system and modernize it with a spread/pistol wrinkle. And having a guy like Smith, who excelled in such a system in college, only reiterates that he's going to make such changes.

I have absolutely no idea why you continue to think that because Reid ran a Lavell Edwards system in Philly during his time their that he won't/can't make changes to that system now in KC. Everything he's done points to it.

Perhaps it's your own inflexibility that's manifesting itself in your thought process.

So we hire a guy, who by all reports, is the best HC we've had in KC since Marty, is an offensive guru etc, and we immediately want him to come in a change what he's done to make him so successful?

I have no idea why I would think a guy who's ran a system for 10 plus years would come in and implement a similar system. I'm crazy I guess.

O.city · 07-21-2013, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

A lot of the fans flying the banners wanted Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith.

If they were the GM's, this organization would still be ****ed.

I wouldn't throw stones there pal, considering who you wanted this offseason.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-21-2013, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So we hire a guy, who by all reports, is the best HC we've had in KC since Marty, is an offensive guru etc, and we immediately want him to come in a change what he's done to make him so successful?

I have no idea why I would think a guy who's ran a system for 10 plus years would come in and implement a similar system. I'm crazy I guess.

I think one thing that made him successful was his ability to foresee where the league was headed and made adjustments to his coaching philosophy when he became a head coach. He is just doing that again, IMO.

O.city · 07-21-2013, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I think one thing that made him successful was his ability to foresee where the league was headed and made adjustments to his coaching philosophy when he became a head coach. He is just doing that again, IMO.

I agree. I like what we're hearing but I don't think it's a major overhaul in his system, I think he's adding wrinkles.

Or atleast thats what I hope.

We hired an offensive guru who throws the ball around the yard. Thats what I forsee him bringing.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-21-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I agree. I like what we're hearing but I don't think it's a major overhaul in his system, I think he's adding wrinkles.

Or atleast thats what I hope.

We hired an offensive guru who throws the ball around the yard. Thats what I forsee him bringing.

I am enjoying the mystery of it, to be honest. I, too, think it will be wrinkles added on top of his bread and butter, but who can say for sure.

I see a guy who isn't pinned down and committed to one thing. All these assistant coaches and specialists tell me he is adapting his game or at least tweaking it to fit his players.

When was the last time we had a coach willing to do that?

**Rausch** · 07-21-2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I see a guy who isn't pinned down and committed to one thing. All these assistant coaches and specialists tell me he is adapting his game or at least tweaking it to fit his players.

When was the last time we had a coach willing to do that?

Al Saunders....

chiefzilla1501 · 07-21-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So we hire a guy, who by all reports, is the best HC we've had in KC since Marty, is an offensive guru etc, and we immediately want him to come in a change what he's done to make him so successful?

I have no idea why I would think a guy who's ran a system for 10 plus years would come in and implement a similar system. I'm crazy I guess.

I understand what you're saying. Keep in mind that Mike Shanahan has moved to a mostly pistol offense and Jon Gruden has said that if he made a comeback, he would want to run the spread.

I look at the moves they've made and there are just too many players and coaches built for this offense to believe this is more than just a wrinkle. Starting with the QBs. It's still interesting to me that they chose two QBs who don't have Kaepernick speed. Chris Ault swears up and down that this offense can be run without elite QB speed and I believe him.

Now, keep in mind that the 49ers only ran about 30% of their plays out of the pistol (54% in the postseason), so from that standpoint, yeah it's kind of a wrinkle. But I have a feeling you'll see more sets out of it than you might think.

O.city · 07-21-2013, 07:20 AM

Yes, Shanahan did and look what happened to RGIII.

I think we'll run the pistol, but I also think we'll run Reid's traditional offense out of it with a lotta spread concepts incorporated.

Saccopoo · 07-21-2013, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So we hire a guy, who by all reports, is the best HC we've had in KC since Marty, is an offensive guru etc, and we immediately want him to come in a change what he's done to make him so successful?

I have no idea why I would think a guy who's ran a system for 10 plus years would come in and implement a similar system. I'm crazy I guess.

Like it's been said, ad nausem, it's not like he's going to completely revamp his entire offensive system. You have this incredibly myopic conceptualization of what Reid can/will/must do with his offense based on historical perspective.

"He's ate Cheerios everyday for the past ten years. There is no freakin' way he's going to pick up a bowl of Wheaties and try it! No freakin' way!"

It's called adaptation. And while we haven't seen what Reid's KC offense is ultimately going to manifest as on the field on a game day situation, one could make the assumption that it will be a slightly different offense based on the hirings of Ault and Childress as "spread/pistol" consultants.

The spread and pistol have become prevalent at the NFL level after proving to be successful at the college level over the past ten years. (I still remember all the "Pro Style Set" guys squealing about "spread monkeys" and how that would never work on the NFL level. Short sighted imbeciles.) Reid's Lavell Edwards West Coast offensive system that he's employed isn't that far off from a Meyer/Ault type of spread/pistol in it's functional application, so taking that next step isn't really much of a reach.

**RealSNR** · 07-21-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Smith was talking up Baldwin on 810 Friday afternoon.

That's because he's only practiced with Baldwin. He needs to wait until the games.

**RealSNR** · 07-21-2013, 07:28 AM

I for one applaud Reid if he's changing his ideas with his new team.

Clearly he understands that growing stale is the worst thing you can do if you're a head coach in this league, and now that he has a new team this was the perfect opportunity to adapt and evolve with the rest of the league.

O.city · 07-21-2013, 07:30 AM

Oh I like what we're hearing about the moves their making in terms of the offense and I think they'll add some good substance to the offense.

My main speaking of not changing was in regards to someone saying he's going to turn into a run first type coach.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-715936	Oh I like what we're hearing about the moves their making in terms of the offense and I think they'll add some good substance to the offense. My main speaking of not changing was in regards to someone saying he's going to turn into a run first type coach.
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