***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Spott

You gotta stop drinking pop. That shit is terrible for you.

I haven't drank a soda without rum or whiskey in it for at least 10 years.

While that might be worse for you, I'm proud of it.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Spott

You gotta stop drinking pop. That shit is terrible for you.

diet soda has no calories and no sugar, it's fine

i'm probably one of the healthiest people here

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Strongside

The thing I worry about with regard to the notion that millions are walking around with this and are asymptomatic, is that we may actually build up a pretty good herd immunity, but that we'll prolong this societal halt longer than necessary because 3/4 of people will have had it but still be living under the assumption and fear that they haven't.

Ship = sailed.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

posted the CDC report and a article hour or so ago

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/...ot-invincible/

This is based on very limited data. Add that to the fact that we're only testing the sickest of the sick people in many places right now. Not to mention we have no way of knowing how many people in that age group have actually had the virus.

Nobody is "invincible", but the odds are overwhelmingly weighted towards the older population.

I'm listening to an interview with Dr. Fauci and Mark Zuckerberg Facebook right now and he's covering this very topic.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Reached out to a local distillery today. Running dangerously low in sanitation products at our facility.

Secured 15 gallons of “sanitizer” for our rehab! FDA lifted regulations and asked these places to start making sanitizers. Best part....it’s free!

We have jails and prisons in Missouri making sanitizer now.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

diet soda has no calories and no sugar, it's fine

i'm probably one of the healthiest people here

"Some say I'm the healthiest CP poster of all time. Maybe ever. Big league healthy."

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Ship = sailed.

Agree.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by TLO

We have jails and prisons in Missouri making sanitizer now.

OMG they're going to start drinking it, guaranteed.

[Kiimo]

Lol at diet soda being fine for you

[Discuss Thrower]

So will the people who would have most likely been killed by the Wuhan Flu outlive the years it will take to recover economically or nah?

Yes, I'm being morose. No, I don't care if you're mad. Yes, this is a legitimate thought I had. No, I don't care if that makes me a shitty person as I've already made peace with myself.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

diet soda has no calories and no sugar, it's fine

i'm probably one of the healthiest people here

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325919

A growing body of evidence suggests that diet soda consumption correlates with an increased risk of a wide range of medical conditions, notably:

heart conditions, such as heart attack and high blood pressure
metabolic issues, including diabetes and obesity
brain conditions, such as dementia and stroke
liver problems, which include nonalcoholic fatty liver disease

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Lol at diet soda being fine for you

I'm still waiting for it to destroy my body

regular soda? very bad - one way ticket to the 'beetus

diet soda? it's water and flavor. get ****ed.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Isn't that exactly what the UK did before deciding to take all of the extra precautions?

Some minister in the UK government proposed that but no they didn't actually try it.

I think Italy finally hit home to them.

But they started later than France and Germany.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325919

A growing body of evidence suggests that diet soda consumption correlates with an increased risk of a wide range of medical conditions, notably:

heart conditions, such as heart attack and high blood pressure
metabolic issues, including diabetes and obesity
brain conditions, such as dementia and stroke
liver problems, which include nonalcoholic fatty liver disease

this is a load of shit caused by associated things that people eat, like fast food and junk food snacks

if you eat healthy otherwise, a few diet sodas a week isn't going to kill you

[Kiimo]

All for profit businesses other than groceries and pharmacies (and food delivery) shut down in la