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Old 11-05-2019, 10:44 AM  
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Only TWO games since Kareem left!!

Has a Chiefs running back rushed for a hundred yards in a game. Sunday's 145 by Damien was the first since his 103 at Seattle last season. Honestly I know Andy hates running the ball but that stat is utterly pathetic tbh. I think finally replacing Kareem's production is vital for this team moving forward so we can take the pressure off of Pat, give opposing defenses something else to worry about and also compete for time of possesion. We all saw how weak against the run the Pats were on Sunday and what a good running game can do...so I hope Veach has plans to land a quality RB In the offseason. Most teams have their number one back so the draft could be kind to us tbh with Taylor, Swift, Harris, Dobbins, Ettien etc all there to be had.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:43 PM   #61
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Kareem was a Pats killer.

Doubt the Chiefs are held to 0 1st half pts had Kareem been playing.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:45 PM   #62
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Kareem was a Pats killer.

Doubt the Chiefs are held to 0 1st half pts had Kareem been playing.
You realize he wouldn't have played that game even if we didn't cut him right?
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:55 PM   #63
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How exactly did it cost us the Superbowl? Please do tell.
Obvious. Kareem was a tackle breaking machine. Plus he was strong as a bull in short yardage. Dude could drive his legs like a bull dozer. Since we didn't have him NE only focused on Mahomes in the back field.

(It's not a knock on Williams. Williams is solid. But Kareem was to our RB core what Tyreek is to our WR's. Williams is Sammy Watkins. It would've made all the difference. Plus Kareem had mad chemistry with our 1's. Kelce, Mahomes, and Tyreek all loved the guy. Even Kelce took heat later on for saying cutting Kareem tore his heart our. Easily one of the most beloved players in the Chiefs Kingdom. Its something you cant replace with simply a decent player like .... Damian Williams. It made all the difference.)
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:11 PM   #64
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Obvious. Kareem was a tackle breaking machine. Plus he was strong as a bull in short yardage. Dude could drive his legs like a bull dozer. Since we didn't have him NE only focused on Mahomes in the back field.

(It's not a knock on Williams. Williams is solid. But Kareem was to our RB core what Tyreek is to our WR's. Williams is Sammy Watkins. It would've made all the difference. Plus Kareem had mad chemistry with our 1's. Kelce, Mahomes, and Tyreek all loved the guy. Even Kelce took heat later on for saying cutting Kareem tore his heart our. Easily one of the most beloved players in the Chiefs Kingdom. Its something you cant replace with simply a decent player like .... Damian Williams. It made all the difference.)
Please explain how Hunt realistically would have helped KC against the Pats in the AFCCG.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:11 PM   #65
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What we've learned is that unless the player is going to be kicked out of the league for good or he's going to prison or something like that, never release a player for off the field shit. Some other team just gets him for free when you do that.
We knew that from the get go. Only emotionally idiotic Chief Fan/Clark ever thought otherwise.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:12 PM   #66
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Obvious. Kareem was a tackle breaking machine. Plus he was strong as a bull in short yardage. Dude could drive his legs like a bull dozer. Since we didn't have him NE only focused on Mahomes in the back field.

(It's not a knock on Williams. Williams is solid. But Kareem was to our RB core what Tyreek is to our WR's. Williams is Sammy Watkins. It would've made all the difference. Plus Kareem had mad chemistry with our 1's. Kelce, Mahomes, and Tyreek all loved the guy. Even Kelce took heat later on for saying cutting Kareem tore his heart our. Easily one of the most beloved players in the Chiefs Kingdom. Its something you cant replace with simply a decent player like .... Damian Williams. It made all the difference.)
I know all that. So how did cutting him cost us the Superbowl when he couldn't have played in the playoffs even if we didn't cut him?
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I know all that. So how did cutting him cost us the Superbowl when he couldn't have played in the playoffs even if we didn't cut him?
You were supposed to let him struggle to argue we would have won with Hunt still on the team.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:16 PM   #68
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It's a lack of diversity. We've seen it return with Moore because Andy knows he HAS to protect him.

With Mahomes it was a LOT of just drop back in the shotgun over and over. It makes the pass rusher's jobs easier.

Mix it up. Runs, screens, misdirections, play action, ect. Slow down the rush. I had no idea this 'slow down the rush' concept was so abstract to football fans. It seems like everyone is confused about why this stuff matters.

Andy was taking his talents for granted and in doing so not maximizing them. Ever since the Lions game it's been that way and it's been an issue. I just don't want him to go back to THAT when we do get him back. We can protect him and allow him to be a star at the same time.
Yup, totally agree. You can see the difference in the Packers game. The Packers game looked like the Chiefs offense we're accustomed to seeing. Prior to that, it looked like everything was on Mahomes. Very little creativity around the LoS. It returned when Mahomes went down.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:33 PM   #69
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I know all that. So how did cutting him cost us the Superbowl when he couldn't have played in the playoffs even if we didn't cut him?
Too easy. Nobody really cared about what happened because he's still in the NFL. (<----Obvious! You know I'm right.) So the big deal is the fact those tapes came out and and embarrassed the league. So, those tapes should have been disposed of. (TMZ didn't care. They just pay for headlines).

So if Clark Hunt would have really been on his game he would have contacted the mafia. The media would have taken care of the rest. (Deals they cant refuse or what not.) But, our owner is soft and that's why he doesnt have ring.

But yeah, you're saying Kareem wasn't going to play a down no matter what for the rest of the year. I challenge that. Six games? That's still pretty hefty for a first time offender and no charges.
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The offensive line has been patchwork almost the entire season due to injuries. Kareem Hunt never ran behind this type of offensive line, but sure let's waste draft capital on probably the least valued position in football just above punter and kicker. Offensive lines make running backs, not the other way around. Williams was perfectly fine last season when he took over for Hunt (the chiefs didn't miss a beat). Now that Fisher, LDT, and Morse are gone the dumb **** OP want to blame the RB.

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Too easy. Nobody really cared about what happened because he's still in the NFL. (<----Obvious! You know I'm right.) So the big deal is the fact those tapes came out and and embarrassed the league. So, those tapes should have been disposed of. (TMZ didn't care. They just pay for headlines).

So if Clark Hunt would have really been on his game he would have contacted the mafia. The media would have taken care of the rest. (Deals they cant refuse or what not.) But, our owner is soft and that's why he doesnt have ring.

But yeah, you're saying Kareem wasn't going to play a down no matter what for the rest of the year. I challenge that. Six games? That's still pretty hefty for a first time offender and no charges.
He was on the commissioners exempt list well after the season ended and then was suspended for an additional 8 games.
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:21 PM   #72
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He was on the commissioners exempt list well after the season ended and then was suspended for an additional 8 games.
Your assertion is skewed in some sense. Because he wasn't on a team there was no pressure to get it straightened out. It became an after thought. Clark Hunt made it easy on the NFL by releasing him. They put Kareem on the back burner. And the fact he remained on list until after the season is moot. He wasn't missing games. It didnt matter.

But anyway, I'm pretty over this. Had he not been cut maybe there was a small chance he plays in the Playoffs? Unlikely I guess. But we'll never know because Clark Hunts pride was hurt when the video was released. Dude should still be on the team at a minimum. Now hes rotting in Clevleland. (Some would call it poetic justice lol. It was... a horrible day in the Chiefs Kingdom. Still hurts.)
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The offensive line has been patchwork almost the entire season due to injuries. Kareem Hunt never ran behind this type of offensive line, but sure let's waste draft capital on probably the least valued position in football just above punter and kicker. Offensive lines make running backs, not the other way around. Williams was perfectly fine last season when he took over for Hunt (the chiefs didn't miss a beat). Now that Fisher, LDT, and Morse are gone the dumb **** OP want to blame the RB.

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I read garbage like this and I honestly wonder if folks actually understand the frikking game? Saints, Pats, Cowboys, Packers, Seattle, Ravens etc etc ALL HAVE A HIGHLY RATED THREE-DOWN BACK!!..and guess what that allows them to do? Dominate on the ground, keep defenses on the field and run the clock down....WILLIAMS IS NOT THE GUY TO DO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT LINE WE HAVE..but hey, you obviously "know better", right? Smh
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I read garbage like this and I honestly wonder if folks actually understand the frikking game? Saints, Pats, Cowboys, Packers, Seattle, Ravens etc etc ALL HAVE A HIGHLY RATED THREE-DOWN BACK!!..and guess what that allows them to do? Dominate on the ground, keep defenses on the field and run the clock down....WILLIAMS IS NOT THE GUY TO DO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT LINE WE HAVE..but hey, you obviously "know better", right? Smh
With the exception of Elliot in Dallas, which one of those teams wasted tons of draft capital on a running back? You have got to be the dumbest football poster on CP.
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