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Mecca · 03-31-2023, 12:08 PM

ICYMI: While discussions are at an early stage, an NFL owner told @FOS that creating a four-team European division via expansion is something that is under consideration. The expansion fee for each team would be in the $3B-$5B range. https://t.co/ZzKpsTQ6Dd
— A.J. Perez (@byajperez) March 30, 2023

Mecca · 03-31-2023, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I'll bet you any sum of money that we don't see 40 teams in the NFL in your lifetime.

Its always funny when anyone underestimates the greed of the NFL.

Bump · 03-31-2023, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

They would surely then need to eliminate Thursday games altogether.

AND adjust Playoff spots.

I think the NFL will end up having Tuesday night games, Wednesday night games, Friday night games and of course Saturday games at some point.

You gotta have that 7 day coverage, corporate did a study that says fans want to see a game every night or something.

**Rain Man** · 03-31-2023, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

I think the NFL will end up having Tuesday night games, Wednesday night games, Friday night games and of course Saturday games at some point.

You gotta have that 7 day coverage, corporate did a study that says fans want to see a game every night or something.

I'm surprised that it hasn't happened already. That would take the NFL from a special event to a mundane routine, but I'm still surprised it hasn't happened.

Mecca · 03-31-2023, 02:58 PM

The truth is all of this will be angled for 2030/31 because that is when all of the TV rights and stream deals are up.

If the NFL can tell the networks they are adding teams 8 teams plus 2 byes ads weeks and games to the schedule which means they will ask for a significant increase of pay from the networks.

Mecca · 03-31-2023, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

I think the NFL will end up having Tuesday night games, Wednesday night games, Friday night games and of course Saturday games at some point.

You gotta have that 7 day coverage, corporate did a study that says fans want to see a game every night or something.

The NFL has actually tried pretty hard to not overlap with college football because they like having a minor league system that is free to them.

DJ's left nut · 03-31-2023, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

The taxes the euro players would pay would SUCK!

I honestly think they'd have to adjust the salary cap on a team by team basis if they did this.

You can't expect teams that are subject to EU levels of withholding to be able to keep players at the same figures teams in the US can. And then what? How far do you go? Do you 'balance' for teams in Texas and Florida with no state income tax? California teams get a buffer because it has a high tax rate?

Shit, why not start talking about cost of living while you're at it...

It's all a terrible idea and it's designed to do nothing but make more money at the expense of the product. I would be righteously pissed.

ChiefsCountry · 03-31-2023, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

I think the NFL will end up having Tuesday night games, Wednesday night games, Friday night games and of course Saturday games at some point.

You gotta have that 7 day coverage, corporate did a study that says fans want to see a game every night or something.

Can't have Friday or Saturday games due to their anti-trust exemption.

Mecca · 03-31-2023, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I honestly think they'd have to adjust the salary cap on a team by team basis if they did this.

You can't expect teams that are subject to EU levels of withholding to be able to keep players at the same figures teams in the US can. And then what? How far do you go? Do you 'balance' for teams in Texas and Florida with no state income tax? California teams get a buffer because it has a high tax rate?

Shit, why not start talking about cost of living while you're at it...

It's all a terrible idea and it's designed to do nothing but make more money at the expense of the product. I would be righteously pissed.

What has the NFL ever done to tell you it isn't all about profit.

Dante84 · 03-31-2023, 04:23 PM

Seriously, circling back - why hasn't the NFL set up a true minor/developmental league? I know they scrapped NFL Europe, but that always seemed half-assed, and the world was different then.

Imagine if there were 32 international minor teams, populated with "not major leaguers" in 8 divisions:

UK/Irish Division [London, Dublin, Birmingham, Glasgow]
German Division [Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt]
Rest of Europe Division [Madrid, Rome, Paris, Barcelona]
Oceania Division [Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Auckland]

Asian Division [Tokyo, Seoul, Bangkok, Manila]
Latin American Division [Mexico City, Sao Paulo, Rio De Janiero, Buenos Aires]
African Division [Cairo, Cape Town, Johannesburg, Nairobi]
US Division [Salt Lake City, Portland, Central TX (ATX/SA), Omaha]

- Each program would be assigned to an NFL team, and could even rotate cities every 2 years to get each team more global exposure.

- Expand the NFL Draft to 14 rounds, where the last day of the draft is 7 rounds, lightning fast

- Each team participates in training camp, and after final cutdowns, teams could pick keepers and then have a minor league re-draft.

- Division games played for the first 8 weeks, then travel to the other division cities the other weeks, rotate home and away.

Pros
- Exposes the rest of the world to American Football, increasing eyeballs and merch sales.
- Allows mid-level players the ability to continue playing if they don't make the big leagues.
- Helps develop young talent, and widens the future talent pool once youth leagues pop up globally. This would also help the NCAA with international talent.

Cons
- Cost of doing business

Demonpenz · 03-31-2023, 04:29 PM

A plane would crash killing the players

**Munson** · 03-31-2023, 04:59 PM

Madrid Matadors

Berlin Stormtroopers

Dublin Leprechauns

Copenhagen Dips

Icon · 03-31-2023, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

The NFL is trying it’s hardest to kill the golden goose.

Agree.

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. This is pure greed.

scho63 · 03-31-2023, 05:07 PM

You just feel the NFL can't stop tinkering and will wind up ****ing it up in the end.

They are banking on the massive popularity of the NFL cannot be harmed, no matter what they change.

|Zach| · 03-31-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

This was always coming. It's the only way it makes travel sense. You can't just put one team over there, you need to create an entire division. London, Manchester, Berlin and Munich or something like that. Maybe replace one of them with Frankfurt.

Yea it never really made sense to me 1 or 2 teams but this proposal be it a good one or bad one at least makes sense.

|Zach| · 03-31-2023, 05:21 PM

London/Berlin/Paris/Amsterdam or Madrid.

Those whole countries could adopt those teams as their own not just the city. I think too much is being made about players wanting to go. Players would get over and settle in just fine. If players can enjoy Buffalo and Cincy then they can enjoy some of the greatest cities in the world. They will make the money work.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2147050	The truth is all of this will be angled for 2030/31 because that is when all of the TV rights and stream deals are up. If the NFL can tell the networks they are adding teams 8 teams plus 2 byes ads weeks and games to the schedule which means they will ask for a significant increase of pay from the networks.
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03-31-2023, 04:23 PM	#69
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1311996 VARSITY	Seriously, circling back - why hasn't the NFL set up a true minor/developmental league? I know they scrapped NFL Europe, but that always seemed half-assed, and the world was different then. Imagine if there were 32 international minor teams, populated with "not major leaguers" in 8 divisions: UK/Irish Division [London, Dublin, Birmingham, Glasgow] German Division [Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt] Rest of Europe Division [Madrid, Rome, Paris, Barcelona] Oceania Division [Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Auckland] Asian Division [Tokyo, Seoul, Bangkok, Manila] Latin American Division [Mexico City, Sao Paulo, Rio De Janiero, Buenos Aires] African Division [Cairo, Cape Town, Johannesburg, Nairobi] US Division [Salt Lake City, Portland, Central TX (ATX/SA), Omaha] - Each program would be assigned to an NFL team, and could even rotate cities every 2 years to get each team more global exposure. - Expand the NFL Draft to 14 rounds, where the last day of the draft is 7 rounds, lightning fast - Each team participates in training camp, and after final cutdowns, teams could pick keepers and then have a minor league re-draft. - Division games played for the first 8 weeks, then travel to the other division cities the other weeks, rotate home and away. Pros - Exposes the rest of the world to American Football, increasing eyeballs and merch sales. - Allows mid-level players the ability to continue playing if they don't make the big leagues. - Helps develop young talent, and widens the future talent pool once youth leagues pop up globally. This would also help the NCAA with international talent. Cons - Cost of doing business __________________ ..
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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5146768	London/Berlin/Paris/Amsterdam or Madrid. Those whole countries could adopt those teams as their own not just the city. I think too much is being made about players wanting to go. Players would get over and settle in just fine. If players can enjoy Buffalo and Cincy then they can enjoy some of the greatest cities in the world. They will make the money work.
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