Tamba Hali

[TheGuardian]

Merriman has zero sacks and is dragging that operated leg like it's been bitten by zombies.

Since he lost his deca he's looked average, now with that bad leg he looks less than average.

Tamba had a few pressures yesterday. Our linebackers as a group didn't "do" a whole lot. Tamba had a good game last week. I think if they flip flpped he and Vrabel it'd be better personally.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Merriman has zero sacks and is dragging that operated leg like it's been bitten by zombies.

Since he lost his deca he's looked average, now with that bad leg he looks less than average.

Tamba had a few pressures yesterday. Our linebackers as a group didn't "do" a whole lot. Tamba had a good game last week. I think if they flip flpped he and Vrabel it'd be better personally.

He's going to be 26 next year. Teams still will gameplan for him because of his reputation.

He wasn't going to come back from major surgery and light the world on fire in the first 2 games. I bet by the end of the year, he'll still be in duoble digit sacks.

This team needs a feared pass rusher in the worst way.

[Chiefnj2]

Why is Raji better than Jackson at this point? I didn't watch the Bengals/Packers game yesterday, but I see they put up 31 points and the Packs let Benson run for 150. Raji isn't listed as having any tackles or assists.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why is Raji better than Jackson at this point? I didn't watch the Bengals/Packers game yesterday, but I see they put up 31 points and the Packs let Benson run for 150. Raji isn't listed as having any tackles or assists.

He's better because the Chiefs didn't draft him.

[Easy 6]

My last thought on this...if Tamba doesnt develop into a productive OLB thats still here next year, even as a backup, drag this up & beat me with it...i wont quit my job & start in with meth over it.

I disagree that he cant hack it & atleast be serviceable...we'll see.

[wild1]

It would probably be best for all involved if Hali was let go after the season and allowed to go somewhere more suited to his playing style. I like the guy and wish him well, but this isn't gonna work.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by wild1

It would probably be best for all involved if Hali was let go after the season and allowed to go somewhere more suited to his playing style. I like the guy and wish him well, but this isn't gonna work.

The UFL?

[ferrarispider95]

He is not overly fast, but he is not overly strong either to bull rush.

[Christofire]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...cFadden-TD-run

Where's Tamba?

Watch the replay of the game-winning TD by McFadden, and you'll see where Tamba's at: Looking for his jock in the middle of the field, where he was COMPLETELY sucked in by the fake, leaving his outside contain totally uncovered. He didn't lose us this game, but those kinds of blown responsibilities will cost him his linebacking job.

I like the 3/4, I like the unpredictability of it, but waiting for the 4/3 guys to transition to it is gonna be painful.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Christofire

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...cFadden-TD-run

Where's Tamba?

Watch the replay of the game-winning TD by McFadden, and you'll see where Tamba's at: Looking for his jock in the middle of the field, where he was COMPLETELY sucked in by the fake, leaving his outside contain totally uncovered. He didn't lose us this game, but those kinds of blown responsibilities will cost him his linebacking job.

I like the 3/4, I like the unpredictability of it, but waiting for the 4/3 guys to transition to it is gonna be painful.

Yeah, he looked terrible on that play in particular, totally fooled.

But your last line says a lot, 'waiting for transition'...its impossible for anyone to say that he's had time to do that. Doubters want to say, 'he doesnt have this', 'he doesnt have that'...but he had enough of those to collect a sack last week & apply good pressure a few other times.

'Impact Player', 'Sack Machine', 'Difference Maker'...i cant speak for anyone else, but i certainly didnt expect those things, atleast not right away.

I expected him to be hit & miss the first half of 09, how anyone expected more is beyond me.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program of sneering slams...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by scott free

Yeah, he looked terrible on that play in particular, totally fooled.

But your last line says a lot, 'waiting for transition'...its impossible for anyone to say that he's had time to do that. Doubters want to say, 'he doesnt have this', 'he doesnt have that'...but he had enough of those to collect a sack last week & apply good pressure a few other times.

'Impact Player', 'Sack Machine', 'Difference Maker'...i cant speak for anyone else, but i certainly didnt expect those things, atleast not right away.

I expected him to be hit & miss the first half of 09, how anyone expected more is beyond me.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program of sneering slams...

The issues that many of us are discussing with Hali have very little to do with learning the position.

They have to do with the physical shortcomings that aren't fixable.

He's too slow and too unathletic to compete and succeed.

It won't matter if he has 2 games, 6 games, or 60 games.

Those are not correctable issues.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by milkman

The issues that many of us are discussing with Hali have very little to do with learning the position.

They have to do with the physical shortcomings that aren't fixable.

He's too slow and too unathletic to compete and succeed.

It won't matter if he has 2 games, 6 games, or 60 games.

Those are not correctable issues.

MM, i'll have to respectfully disagree about his short area/zone capable quicks & general athleticism...like you, i didnt start closely following football last week...he was a first rounder & graded as such by many teams IIRC.

Heres a friendly wager, if he doesnt have atleast 7 sacks...you can make up the most rickdickulous sig ever & i will use it for 7 months...(former) Scouts Honor.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by scott free

MM, i'll have to respectfully disagree about his short area quicks & general athleticism...like you, i didnt start closely following football last week...he was a first rounder & graded as such by many teams IIRC.

Heres a friendly wager, if he doesnt have atleast 7 sacks...you can make up the most rickdickulous sig ever & i will use it for 7 months...(former) Scouts Honor.

Hali's ability to play the OLB spot isn't simply about sacks, though that is a part of it.

He's going to struggle in run defense, and really struggle with his pass covearge.

he could potentially get 7 sacks because the 34 puts a premium on communication along the O-Line.

Any breakdown in communication by the O-Line could easliy result in a sack from Hali, and it would have very little to do with his ability.

[Chiefless]

Originally Posted by milkman

The issues that many of us are discussing with Hali have very little to do with learning the position.

They have to do with the physical shortcomings that aren't fixable.

He's too slow and too unathletic to compete and succeed.

It won't matter if he has 2 games, 6 games, or 60 games.

Those are not correctable issues.

Yes, this causes him to consistently over persue the ball, which makes him susceptible to mis-direction plays. He is Eric Hicks all over again.

[Chiefless]

Originally Posted by scott free

Yeah, he looked terrible on that play in particular, totally fooled.

But your last line says a lot, 'waiting for transition'...its impossible for anyone to say that he's had time to do that. Doubters want to say, 'he doesnt have this', 'he doesnt have that'...but he had enough of those to collect a sack last week & apply good pressure a few other times.

'Impact Player', 'Sack Machine', 'Difference Maker'...i cant speak for anyone else, but i certainly didnt expect those things, atleast not right away.

I expected him to be hit & miss the first half of 09, how anyone expected more is beyond me.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program of sneering slams...

Well, I don't mean to slam the guy...I really don't. But I suppose that's what this will sound like. That play showed a complete and utter lack of football instincts and that play was designed to exploit it IMO. Stuff like that will happen all year to him. If they flop him to the other side the naked boot will be run against him when the opposition has a crucial 3rd and 5-8. I was pulling for the guy but I really don't think he's gonna make it.