Chiefs What's up with Mecole Hardman? - Page 5

htismaqe · 10-19-2020, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

Making a note to check with htis to see if it's ok to post a critical thread after the next win

Maybe wait a few minutes next time?

I mean we just came out of the game thread and were subjected to all the idiocy there for 3 hours.

carcosa · 10-19-2020, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Maybe wait a few minutes next time?

I mean we just came out of the game thread and were subjected to all the idiocy there for 3 hours.

Gimme a number and I'll do that

Peter Gibbons · 10-19-2020, 06:37 PM

I wonder if he understands that yards run East-West don’t count.
That would explain his kick returns at least. Short of that excuse, his play has been below expectations for a while now.

bobhill · 10-19-2020, 06:39 PM

He can catch the ball

DTVietnam · 10-19-2020, 06:49 PM

i think Mecole has played well when given oppurtunites..maybe hes not vibing in practice. .

ThaVirus · 10-19-2020, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because they were running the ball 46 times. Hardman isn't that kind of WR.

It's kind of concerning that he isn't, though. He was a 2nd rounder. Those guys really shouldn't come off the field in favor of UDFAs no matter the game plan.

Simply Red · 10-19-2020, 07:08 PM

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keg in kc · 10-19-2020, 07:12 PM

Regardless of whether he can run block or not, it's concerning when the guys making key plays late in the game are Robinson and Pringle, and not him.

Megatron96 · 10-19-2020, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Regardless of whether he can run block or not, it's concerning when the guys making key plays late in the game are Robinson and Pringle, and not him.

We ran the ball 46 times. Both DRob and Pringle are bigger, much better run-blockers than Hardman, who's still learning how to block. No mystery here.

JohnnyHammersticks · 10-19-2020, 07:53 PM

Hardman will be fine. The only thing holding him back right now is his inability to beat press coverage without running around the jam from the CB. Notice how freaking strong Sammy Brokedick and Tyreek are? They're jacked. Hardman isn't there yet. Once he gets a little stronger and starts going through the CB instead of around him he'll be a force. I had hoped it would be this season, but looks like it might take him longer.

That being said, he needs to stop running the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs unless we're desperate for a big play late in a game. They're not opening any lanes for him so why force it?

O.city · 10-19-2020, 07:55 PM

It does kinda show though that they need to re sign Watkins or bring someone else in

oldman · 10-19-2020, 10:31 PM

While I question some of his ST decisions lately, I don't think that's why he's riding the pines. Today's game was run first, pass 2nd. Hardman is a speed guy, but when there's a monsoon going on, you need guys that can run sharp routes and lay a block on someone. Hardman isn't there yet.

Chargem · 10-20-2020, 02:13 AM

Both him and Tyreek look like they are playing through minor injuries.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 10-20-2020, 02:17 AM

All that blocking has got to effect touch when catching the football( prevent cut Kelce thread)

Dante84 · 10-20-2020, 09:40 AM

Just for shits and giggles - and not that I want to - but I'm curious what kind of haul we could get for Hardman via trade, either player swap or draft capital.

Let's say, hypothetically, Veach/Reid/Mahomes/Toub haven't been as impressed with MH's development, know that he's probably peaked in terms of value, and teams are open to acquiring him. What could we get? What sort of contingencies would we need to account for with his departure?

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JohnnyHammersticks MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chandler AZ Casino cash: $2371254	Hardman will be fine. The only thing holding him back right now is his inability to beat press coverage without running around the jam from the CB. Notice how freaking strong Sammy Brokedick and Tyreek are? They're jacked. Hardman isn't there yet. Once he gets a little stronger and starts going through the CB instead of around him he'll be a force. I had hoped it would be this season, but looks like it might take him longer. That being said, he needs to stop running the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs unless we're desperate for a big play late in a game. They're not opening any lanes for him so why force it?
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	While I question some of his ST decisions lately, I don't think that's why he's riding the pines. Today's game was run first, pass 2nd. Hardman is a speed guy, but when there's a monsoon going on, you need guys that can run sharp routes and lay a block on someone. Hardman isn't there yet.
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Chargem Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $3610400	Both him and Tyreek look like they are playing through minor injuries.
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