S.I.'s early look 2014 Mock Draft

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

For a group that was just served it's comeupance by the collective wisdom of the professional NFL, you draft-a-QB-any-QB-at-1.1 guys sure continue to be full of yourselves.

No comeupances will be served until we see how Geno plays.

Drafting Geno at #1 was only ever about the right decision for the Chiefs specifically. Obvious teams like Jacksonville who actually needed a LT *snicker* weren't going to draft him, especially when the coach still wants to see what he has in the last 1st round QB drafted only two years ago.

You can claim this is actually about draft position and how people feel about him as a QB, but if you claim victory now and Geno ends up raping faces, you'll get poop flicked into your eyes.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

No comeupances will be served until we see how Geno plays.

Drafting Geno at #1 was only ever about the right decision for the Chiefs specifically. Obvious teams like Jacksonville who actually needed a LT *snicker* weren't going to draft him, especially when the coach still wants to see what he has in the last 1st round QB drafted only two years ago.

You can claim this is actually about draft position and how people feel about him as a QB, but if you claim victory now and Geno ends up raping faces, you'll get poop flicked into your eyes.

It's about making smart drafting decisions.

And let's not forget what we've been taught from the gospel according to the draftabulators. You don't find franchise QBs outside of the first round unless you stumble into one by accident. By definition, Geno has become a long shot.

[keg in kc]

If Geno becomes one of the league's best, which he may or may not (nobody knows that right now), then it will have been a two-fold poor draft decision to have passed on him. Both at #1 and at #34 because of the ill-advised (with or without Geno) Alex Smith trade.

Draft picks are ultimately valued based on how they perform. It's like with Aaron Rodgers. As much as that was a success for Green Bay, it was ultimately a failure by the teams in front of them. The same is similarly true for later picks like Drew Brees or Russell Wilson. A fact that is rarely acknowledged by people in this discussion. Failure is not just characterized by making the wrong pick, it's also a matter of failing to identify and make the right one.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

If Geno becomes one of the league's best, which he may or may not (nobody knows that right now), then it will have been a two-fold poor draft decision to have passed on him. Both at #1 and at #34 because of the ill-advised (with or without Geno) Alex Smith trade.

Draft picks are ultimately valued based on how they perform. It's like with Aaron Rodgers. As much as that was a success for Green Bay, it was ultimately a failure by the teams in front of them. The same is similarly true for later picks like Drew Brees or Russell Wilson. A fact that is rarely acknowledged by people in this discussion. Failure is not just characterized by making the wrong pick, it's also a matter of failing to identify and make the right one.

No one crushes 30 other NFL teams for passing on Tom Brady an average of over 6 times each because everyone understands that no one saw him as anything other than a long shot in the draft. The fact that Tom's mother believed in him doesn't mean that she was smart and the entire NFL was dumb.

If Geno turns into a franchise QB, that will be a credit to him and to the Jets who decided to take a flyer with their third pick, but it won't vindicate Geno's mom or the guys around here who insisted that he was the right pick at 1.1 and that anyone who thought otherwise was a moron.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by patteeu

No one crushes 30 other NFL teams for passing on Tom Brady an average of over 6 times each because everyone understands that no one saw him as anything other than a long shot in the draft. The fact that Tom's mother believed in him doesn't mean that she was smart and the entire NFL was dumb.

If Geno turns into a franchise QB, that will be a credit to him and to the Jets who decided to take a flyer with their third pick, but it won't vindicate Geno's mom or the guys around here who insisted that he was the right pick at 1.1 and that anyone who thought otherwise was a moron.

And most importantly, Clay.

[jd1020]

We are gonna need another tackle for when Albert walks off the team next season...

We need to get Taylor Lewan, the first OT after the Chiefs pick in this mock.

Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan: Lewan might have leapfrogged Eric Fisher and Luke Joeckel to be the No. 1 pick in 2013, if he had entered his name in the draft rather than returned to Michigan. He’s a clear high first-round prospect and, with Devin Gardner under center rather than Denard Robinson, will get a full year in a pro-style system.

Better than the dude we just picked? Sign me up!!!! SB in 3 years!

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

No one crushes 30 other NFL teams for passing on Tom Brady an average of over 6 times each because everyone understands that no one saw him as anything other than a long shot in the draft. The fact that Tom's mother believed in him doesn't mean that she was smart and the entire NFL was dumb.

If Geno turns into a franchise QB, that will be a credit to him and to the Jets who decided to take a flyer with their third pick, but it won't vindicate Geno's mom or the guys around here who insisted that he was the right pick at 1.1 and that anyone who thought otherwise was a moron.

People who said otherwise didn't know why they didn't like him. They just knew they didn't like him.

Akili Smith comparisons tell the whole story on that one.

The people who could actually explain why they thought Geno would be a failure in the NFL were never called morons. The Bad Guy is one of them. Go ask him if anybody has ever called him a moron because of his opinion on Geno Smith.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

People who said otherwise didn't know why they didn't like him. They just knew they didn't like him.

Akili Smith comparisons tell the whole story on that one.

The people who could actually explain why they thought Geno would be a failure in the NFL were never called morons. The Bad Guy is one of them. Go ask him if anybody has ever called him a moron because of his opinion on Geno Smith.

As it turns out, the people calling for Geno at 1.1 didn't have adequate standing to call anyone moron.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

As it turns out, the people calling for Geno at 1.1 didn't have adequate standing to call anyone moron.

You DO realize that you just took this back around in a circle, right? That's the point we started with.

Try again, Descartes.

[duncan_idaho]

How is it possible Taylor Lewan is MORE highly regarded than Fisher and Joeckel and is being mocked at No. 12 in the next draft?

We were told these guys were ELITE prospects that would go in the top 10 in ANY draft!

[Rain Man]

In our alternate reality game, I drafted Sanchez in the first round in 09, then Clausen in the 2nd round in 10, and Russell Wilson in the 3rd round in 12. A couple of people mentioned that it was "unrealistic" and that no NFL team would invest three picks like that in quarterbacks over a four-year period.

I don't understand why the quarterback position should be treated any differently than other positions. You bring in competition every year, and may the best man win. The qb position should be subject to competition just like every other position, and in fact should be more subject given its importance. If you have a great quarterback he'll beat down the competition every year and your depth will get better. If your third-year quarterback can't beat out a rookie, then you either have a very good rookie or your third-year quarterback isn't a world beater.

For the record, I'll likely draft another quarterback this year, too. Keep the heat on.

[Anyong Bluth]

Teddy! Teddy! Teddy!


(Bridgewater, that is)