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Old 01-21-2019, 04:21 PM   #1
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It’s simple. Fire Sutton and get rid of as much dead weight on defense as possible.

A quick turn around is very possible. We aren’t asking them to be elite. Just be average.

The only defensive players I want back for sure are:
Jones
Fuller (he’s cheap)
Lucas (cheap and young)
Ward (showed lots of promise)
DOD
Speaks (I’d like to see what he could do after an offseason of getting his body right)
Nnadi

Everyone else should be gone as soon as it makes cap sense to do so.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:21 PM   #2
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:16 PM   #4
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:18 PM   #5
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Seriously though, bring him back if the contract is reasonable, I don't even want him franchised, thats too expensive.

Houston will be gone soon and no certainty we keep Jones who will likely make way more than Ford on the market because DL pass rushers are very rare.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:19 PM   #6
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Tag coming I’d imagine

Also the pat tackle was in an illegal formation on the penalty but that didn’t get called
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:21 PM   #7
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There’s maybe something there that you want more we’ll rounded guys that maybe aren’t elite at one thing but just solid at everything
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:21 PM   #8
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He'd be smart to wait until the Chiefs DC situation is decided before making a decision to move to the Patriot on mare than the part-time basis he's on with them now.

If Sutton stays (unpossible!!!!), then he should leave for a better ship, if they replace Bob with a no-name, same thing. But if they replace Bob with a coach that's sure to ignite some fire in the D, then he should consider staying.
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I think if you’re going to keep them both you need to get to a different style d where you don’t ask ford to play much off the los
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I think if you’re going to keep them both you need to get to a different style d where you don’t ask ford to play much off the los
Many pass rushing OLB have been below average against the run, see Derick Thomas for example.

Having a DL who is only good at pass rush is a much bigger liability in my opinion and I think Jones is goin to get PAID by a team who want his pass rush ability. The combo of him and Ford may be bad but separate it may not be as much an issue.
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So the cost to franchise Ford is $16 million. Yeah **** that.
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So the cost to franchise Ford is $16 million. Yeah **** that.
Exactly. Piss on that.
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So the cost to franchise Ford is $16 million. Yeah **** that.
You can get a couple pretty good players for that. Peace out, Dee!

We have so many holes on D, that we need to upgrade multiple positions. Overpaying one-dimension players who no-show in the biggest game of the year is not the answer.

I was in the Franchise Ford camp all year until last night. I hope we’ve seen the last of him.
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You can get a couple pretty good players for that. Peace out, Dee!

We have so many holes on D, that we need to upgrade multiple positions. Overpaying one-dimension players who no-show in the biggest game of the year is not the answer.

I was in the Franchise Ford camp all year until last night. I hope we’ve seen the last of him.
Fords ONLY real knock is health, you seem to fail to remember he won a few games for us this season and kept us in several others we won. 8 forced fumbles to go with the sacks?

Are you shitting me you want to throw that to the curb?

Jones is more expendable IMO.
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Fords ONLY real knock is health, you seem to fail to remember he won a few games for us this season and kept us in several others we won. 8 forced fumbles to go with the sacks?

Are you shitting me you want to throw that to the curb?

Jones is more expendable IMO.

They pulled Ford last night and put in Speaks to defend the run. IMO if you are going to pay a OLB $16 million he better do it all and not come off the field.
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