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Old 12-02-2018, 04:42 PM  
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Kareem Hunt or Sammy Watkins?
Does our offense miss Kareem Hunt or Sammy Watkins more?
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:39 PM   #61
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Everything I've read says they won't complete their investigation until after the season is complete. I just don't see him playing for a while next year, based on what Terez said but I could be reading it wrong.
Exactly.

According to the articles I've seen, the NFL said he'd be on the list until the investigation wraps up, which they EXPECT to be during the offseason.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:40 PM   #62
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If he stays on the list this season and through the playoffs, he'd have been clean next year. Morever, if my memory serves (as it applied to Randy Gregory and Josh Gordon), games spent on the suspended list don't accrue towards FA. As such, there's a good chance he'd have ended up an Restricted Free Agent because his contract would've run before he was eligible for unrestricted free agency and the Chiefs would've gotten an additional cheap year of him.

I'm not entirely convinced he wouldn't have ended up playoff eligible. The league is REALLY reticent to suspend someone for the post-season. He'd have been suspended for the last 5 weeks of the season (via the exempt list and an actual suspension) and he'd have been fined whatever amount he made during his stay on the exempt list to effectively make it a 5 game unpaid suspension.

Even if he wouldn't have played again this year, there's no way this would've been around him next year as well. And everyone will have forgotten about it by then as he came into the season with a fresh start.

It was a rash decision from Clark and an incredibly stupid one long-term. It's going to cost us draft capital, FA$ and/or both at t a time where we can ill afford to burn either of them given the extensions we need to offer and/or picks we need to use to backfill those we can't extend. Hell, we need basic improvements on this roster.

It was shortsighted, petty and foolish.
Yeah, I dunno man. I get it.

It definitely sucks from a team and fan perspective, but when he straight up told them one thing and we come to see a video of that obviously not being true, it was pretty much a done deal.

Add that to the other incident and I think he's gonna be suspended a lot longer than you're thinking.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:41 PM   #63
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Exactly.

According to the articles I've seen, the NFL said he'd be on the list until the investigation wraps up, which they EXPECT to be during the offseason.
Question. Wouldn't the NFL be able to skip the investigation if Hunt comes out and admits that he did everything. I mean it's on video....there's nothing to refute it.
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The NFL said he'd be on the exempt list until the investigation is complete, which will likely be during the offseason. He was going to be stuck in limbo for the rest of this season and facing a suspension next year.
They aren't just going to ignore his 'time served' if they'd have sat him for 5 weeks and the post-season.

That's ENORMOUS.

They'd have fined him and let him off for time served, IMO.
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I believe the deadline for a team to claim him is 1 PM PST today....so we'll see if anything happens on that end.
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Question. Wouldn't the NFL be able to skip the investigation if Hunt comes out and admits that he did everything. I mean it's on video....there's nothing to refute it.
Schefter said that was his original plan. Admit wrongdoing, accept the suspension and essentially look to have it out of the way this year.

Not being on a roster pretty much put an end to that plan.
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Yeah, I dunno man. I get it.

It definitely sucks from a team and fan perspective, but when he straight up told them one thing and we come to see a video of that obviously not being true, it was pretty much a done deal.

Add that to the other incident and I think he's gonna be suspended a lot longer than you're thinking.
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They aren't just going to ignore his 'time served' if they'd have sat him for 5 weeks and the post-season.

That's ENORMOUS.

They'd have fined him and let him off for time served, IMO.
Dude assaulted someone (on VIDEO no less) AND lied about it. The NFL is going to have a field day with it.

He wasn't going to play.
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Yeah, I dunno man. I get it.

It definitely sucks from a team and fan perspective, but when he straight up told them one thing and we come to see a video of that obviously not being true, it was pretty much a done deal.

Add that to the other incident and I think he's gonna be suspended a lot longer than you're thinking.
Why don't developed nations make a habit of executing POWs? Because if you keep executing them, you just won't have POW's anymore, you'll have enemy combatants who kill as many of you as they can before dying. They know they're ****ed either way.

When you operate under the erratic, inconsistent and draconian hand of the Ginger Hammer, why should ANYONE be surprised when a player lies? If they're just gonna make you dig a trench and then shoot you when you're standing in it either way, might as hope to get a few rounds off and vanish into the woods instead...
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It just doesn't matter if you think it is justified (the kicking OR the lying). He did it, he got caught, and it is what it is.

You might say what the Chiefs did was hasty. You could also make a case it was inevitable. We'll never know for sure because if there's one thing the NFL is good at, it's making sure we never understand what really happened.
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Hunt for sure. Teams feared him and they don't Watkins.

Mahomes they fear, Kelce they fear, Tyreek they fear. Not Watkins.
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Why don't developed nations make a habit of executing POWs? Because if you keep executing them, you just won't have POW's anymore, you'll have enemy combatants who kill as many of you as they can before dying. They know they're ****ed either way.

When you operate under the erratic, inconsistent and draconian hand of the Ginger Hammer, why should ANYONE be surprised when a player lies? If they're just gonna make you dig a trench and then shoot you when you're standing in it either way, might as hope to get a few rounds off and vanish into the woods instead...
Sure.

But if you keep excusing that behavior, at some point, you kind of get what you get in terms of a locker room.
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Nothing matters much against the Raiders. The Raiders suck horribly.

But it's gonna matter against teams that don't.
To be fair, the Chargers for example, put up 20 and 26 against the Raiders.

The offense still looked unstoppable any way you put it.
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There's simply not enough of a sample size to judge the running game post-Hunt yet. Some people are just projecting their fears onto a game where there wasn't a ton of evidence that Hunt's absence was a massive issue.


And Hunt ****ed the team, not the other way around. He wasn't going to play again this year regardless.
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There's simply not enough of a sample size to judge the running game post-Hunt yet. Some people are just projecting their fears onto a game where there wasn't a ton of evidence that Hunt's absence was a massive issue.
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