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Abraham Lincoln said it best...
"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes." -Abe Lincoln, 1840 People think they know what is best for us, so they make legislation and make crimes out of things that not crimes. But regardless, SD... you obviously have some deep seeded anger at this situation. Or you watched "Reefer Madness" as a kid, or your dad was a stoner, or something... I rarely smoke it, however, I did give a speech on it while at the University of Kansas, and I did get an award for my thorough research and presnetation of the facts. The reason it became illegal, is NOT because you can smoke it... that is the propaganda they used to make it illegal. Heart had millions of acres of trees in Washington and Oregon that he intended on using for his newpapers that were located in 50 major markets around America. Easy to sway popular opinion during a depression, when you own so many newspapers... [Today... the media is even more controlled by larger corporations and larger agendas...this is a different story altogether] Hemp became illegal because of two people...William Randolf Hearst and Lammont Dupont In the 1920's the Du Pont company developed and patented fuel additives such as tetraethyl lead, as well as the sulfate and sulfite processes for manufacture of pulp paper and numerous new synthetic products such as nylon, cellophane, and other plastics. At the same time other companies were developing synthetic products from renewable biomass resources--especially hemp. The hemp decorticator promised to eliminate much of the need for wood-pulp paper, thus threatening to drastically reduce the value of the vast timberlands still owned by Hearst. Ford and other companies were already promising to make every product from cannabis carbohydrates that was currently currently being made from petroleum hydrocarbons. In response, from 1935 to 1937, Du Pont lobbied the chief counsel of the Treasury Department, Herman Oliphant, for the prohibition of cannabis, assuring him that Du Pont's synthetic petrochemicals (such as urethane) could replace hemp seed oil in the marketplace. William Randolf Hearst hated minorities, and he used his chain of newspapers to aggravate racial tensions at every opportunity. Hearst especially hated Mexicans. Hearst papers portrayed Mexicans as lazy, degenerate, and violent, and as marijuana smokers and job stealers. The real motive behind this prejudice may well have been that Hearst had lost 800,000 acres of prime timberland to the rebel Pancho Villa, suggesting that Hearst's racism was fueled by Mexican threat to his empire. Heart pictured the black jazz musicians as whacked out "free-thinkers" who had no respect for the law, and people who were thinking that they were "equal"...they needed to be put in their place, and the mexicans stealing our jobs... those lazy marihuana smokers... It has all ONLY been propaganda, and as a result we have depleted our resources, and continue to do so, at an alarming rate. The fact that you can smoke it, is of relatively small consequence. |
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Question 1: WTF happened to GoChiefs rep?
Statement 1: I'm a fairly simple man. My simple mind tells me if alchohol is legal, there is no reason mary jane should be illegal. I don't condone the activity of smoking it, and its something I would never do, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be legalized. |
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Yeah, I think internet message boards should be illegal. They arent profitable, and highly addictive with many people developing psychological dependence on said vice...
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I find it interesting that the same argument for keeping hemp illegal isn't used against alcohol. Hemp doesn't contain THC, yet it's illegal. To compare to alcohol, it would be like making methyl alcohol illegal because ethyl alcohol is an addictive intoxicant.
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I smoked for a longass time and quit coldturkey.Mornin, noon and night.
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you boys will argue over anything won't u,,,,,
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Too bad the search function is down, because we've been down this road before....we'll simply have to agree to disagree.
I spent six weeks in a D&A school for the Army. If you wanna slough off that as government subsidized propaganda, fine; you've got your propaganda, I've got mine....there are plenty of dueling studies and research out there for you to google. I have neither the time, nor the desire to rehash something like this that has been beaten to death. Hemp is legal/acceptable in many coutries, and in many parts of the world. Yet there is no thriving, booming, or enormously profitable business that has paper, textile, or other potential hemp competitive businesses "on the run"? If it were so profitable and so "right," why is that? And that's all I have to say on the subject. Thanks. ![]()
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SD spent 6 weeks being indoctrinated in the Army. It is understandable, that he would soak up everything as complete fact. The Army had massive backlash with Vietnam soldiers toking it up. They certainly didnt want that activity moving forward.
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Indoctrinated? Please. I grew up around the stuff, in the ghetto. I smoked the stuff back in the day... Of course, I didn't accept what the Army said as fact. FWIW, it was actually offered through the University of Colorado, and had nothing to do with the Army. To insinuate I haven't looked at the issue with a critical eye, by analyzing the dueling studies and research is a bit presumptious of you. If THAT book is the source of your info, I understand where you are coming from though. Finally, I'd suggest you take your own advice, and search for a mind for yourself....unless you, like I have, looked at both sides of the debate. If you honestly have, and you've interpreted the research and studies differently than I do. Fine. No worries. We'll just have to disagree, but don't pretend to be the final authority on the subject. And neither will I.
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