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Old 11-22-2004, 04:27 PM  
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The Hemp Thread.

It is amazing what this plant can do. Im a Christian at heart, and believe that God gave us this bad ass plant to help us out.

* the first Bibles were printed on hemp paper
* the first US flag was made out of hemp
* the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence were printed on hemp paper.
* an acre of hemp produces more than 4 times the amount of paper than an acre of trees, and it grows back in less than a year
* Henry Ford made a hemp-mobile
* "Marijuana" is just the Hispanic name for hemp, they are the exact same plant. (The name, "marijuana", was used by law enforcement and the media for this "Mexican killer weed" to taboo and sensationalize it in concerned American's minds.)
* Birds live 20% longer when hemp seed is a part of their diet
* Hemp seed oil has been used (and should be used) in everything from engine oil and paint, to cosmetics and foods for man and beast alike
* In the 1600s, there were places in the US where growing hemp was enforced by law
* You could pay your taxes with hemp for 200 years during the 1700s in the US
* Hemp seeds have been a staple and a life-saver during many famines and food shortages throughout history (over 60% of Third World children are dying everyday because of protein starvation , but Mr. Government says they can't grow it - it's against the law!)
* There are receptors in the brain which science has found will bind with THC compounds alone, and no other
* The depletion of the ozone layer threatens to reduce soy crops by up to 50%, but hemp is immune to the damages of ultraviolet light (it actually makes it produce more of the resin that contains the THC)
* Hemp is a more prolific producer of ethanol than corn
* Hemp requires little to no industry, it grows in the ground (cleaning the soil of toxins), then is cut, dried, and utilized... (Does it make any sense that the government doesn't jump on this, legalize it and tax the pants off of it instead of increasing everyone’s already-insane taxes to reduce the country's deficit?? Tax pot!)
* Buddha lived on ONE hemp seed a day for over 5 years.
* And apparently if you set it on fire and inhale the smoke of it, it gives you a euphoric feeling.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every green herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
-Genesis 1:29 -

"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes."
-Abe Lincoln, 1840

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Old 11-23-2004, 09:02 AM   #61
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Abraham Lincoln said it best...

"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes."
-Abe Lincoln, 1840

People think they know what is best for us, so they make legislation and make crimes out of things that not crimes.

But regardless, SD... you obviously have some deep seeded anger at this situation. Or you watched "Reefer Madness" as a kid, or your dad was a stoner, or something...

I rarely smoke it, however, I did give a speech on it while at the University of Kansas, and I did get an award for my thorough research and presnetation of the facts.

The reason it became illegal, is NOT because you can smoke it... that is the propaganda they used to make it illegal.

Heart had millions of acres of trees in Washington and Oregon that he intended on using for his newpapers that were located in 50 major markets around America. Easy to sway popular opinion during a depression, when you own so many newspapers... [Today... the media is even more controlled by larger corporations and larger agendas...this is a different story altogether]

Hemp became illegal because of two people...William Randolf Hearst and Lammont Dupont

In the 1920's the Du Pont company developed and patented fuel additives such as tetraethyl lead, as well as the sulfate and sulfite processes for manufacture of pulp paper and numerous new synthetic products such as nylon, cellophane, and other plastics. At the same time other companies were developing synthetic products from renewable biomass resources--especially hemp. The hemp decorticator promised to eliminate much of the need for wood-pulp paper, thus threatening to drastically reduce the value of the vast timberlands still owned by Hearst. Ford and other companies were already promising to make every product from cannabis carbohydrates that was currently currently being made from petroleum hydrocarbons. In response, from 1935 to 1937, Du Pont lobbied the chief counsel of the Treasury Department, Herman Oliphant, for the prohibition of cannabis, assuring him that Du Pont's synthetic petrochemicals (such as urethane) could replace hemp seed oil in the marketplace.

William Randolf Hearst hated minorities, and he used his chain of newspapers to aggravate racial tensions at every opportunity. Hearst especially hated Mexicans. Hearst papers portrayed Mexicans as lazy, degenerate, and violent, and as marijuana smokers and job stealers. The real motive behind this prejudice may well have been that Hearst had lost 800,000 acres of prime timberland to the rebel Pancho Villa, suggesting that Hearst's racism was fueled by Mexican threat to his empire.

Heart pictured the black jazz musicians as whacked out "free-thinkers" who had no respect for the law, and people who were thinking that they were "equal"...they needed to be put in their place, and the mexicans stealing our jobs... those lazy marihuana smokers...

It has all ONLY been propaganda, and as a result we have depleted our resources, and continue to do so, at an alarming rate.

The fact that you can smoke it, is of relatively small consequence.
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Old 11-23-2004, 09:04 AM   #62
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Question 1: WTF happened to GoChiefs rep?

Statement 1: I'm a fairly simple man. My simple mind tells me if alchohol is legal, there is no reason mary jane should be illegal.

I don't condone the activity of smoking it, and its something I would never do, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be legalized.
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I find it interesting that the same argument for keeping hemp illegal isn't used against alcohol. Hemp doesn't contain THC, yet it's illegal. To compare to alcohol, it would be like making methyl alcohol illegal because ethyl alcohol is an addictive intoxicant.
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Too bad the search function is down, because we've been down this road before....we'll simply have to agree to disagree.

I spent six weeks in a D&A school for the Army. If you wanna slough off that as government subsidized propaganda, fine; you've got your propaganda, I've got mine....there are plenty of dueling studies and research out there for you to google. I have neither the time, nor the desire to rehash something like this that has been beaten to death.

Hemp is legal/acceptable in many coutries, and in many parts of the world. Yet there is no thriving, booming, or enormously profitable business that has paper, textile, or other potential hemp competitive businesses "on the run"? If it were so profitable and so "right," why is that?

And that's all I have to say on the subject. Thanks.
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SD spent 6 weeks being indoctrinated in the Army. It is understandable, that he would soak up everything as complete fact. The Army had massive backlash with Vietnam soldiers toking it up. They certainly didnt want that activity moving forward.

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SD spent 6 weeks being indoctrinated in the Army. It is understandable, that he would soak up everything as complete fact. The Army had massive backlash with Vietnam soldiers toking it up. They certainly didnt want that activity moving forward.

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You know, I try not to get personal here....unless someone else does it first, or unless I've been drinking sometimes...

Indoctrinated? Please. I grew up around the stuff, in the ghetto. I smoked the stuff back in the day... Of course, I didn't accept what the Army said as fact. FWIW, it was actually offered through the University of Colorado, and had nothing to do with the Army. To insinuate I haven't looked at the issue with a critical eye, by analyzing the dueling studies and research is a bit presumptious of you.

If THAT book is the source of your info, I understand where you are coming from though. Finally, I'd suggest you take your own advice, and search for a mind for yourself....unless you, like I have, looked at both sides of the debate. If you honestly have, and you've interpreted the research and studies differently than I do. Fine. No worries. We'll just have to disagree, but don't pretend to be the final authority on the subject. And neither will I.
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