Hartwell is staying the night - Page 5

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-03-2005, 07:12 PM

Leabo just played tape on 810

Wallcrawler · 03-03-2005, 08:31 PM

Well, Samari leaving for his daughter's B-day is a touchy deal.

He's spent 2 days in KC, hasnt visited any other teams, and they are suggesting that they make sure he signs before he leaves?

You want to push, but you dont want to push too hard to where the guy just says F you, Im leaving and thats that.

I think the fact that he hasnt visited anywhere else, and spent two days here, the first two days of FA no less, is a pretty good sign that some good things have happened at the negotiating table.

I think he'll be back.

........I hope he'll come back......

.................please come back Samari......

Uh oh....

**Mr. Kotter** · 03-03-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

two good looking lesbians should be waiting in his room

Two "bi" women would be better.

Hammock Parties · 03-03-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Two "bi" women would be better.

Are you volunteering, NAMBLAPrez?

beer bacon · 03-03-2005, 08:33 PM

I think he planned his daughter's birth so that he could use it to back out of KC if the deal went sour. That crafty bastard.

keg in kc · 03-03-2005, 08:34 PM

There's a difference between a 'negative' and a 'risk'. I don't think Hartwell has any real negatives, there aren't character issues, there aren't health issues, there aren't talent issues, and he's been in a position to learn from one of the best. That's not to say there aren't some legitimate questions to be considered. How will he perform when he's asked to be 'the man'? But that's free agency, weighing the risks against the possible rewards.

tk13 · 03-03-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Excellent points. I'm not sure of the situation on Trotter's knees. I thought he was 2 years removed from the injury?

I'd honestly like to know what it is with Trotter's knees too. I know that's what kept everyone away from him when he could've been had for cheap last year, but even last night Chris Mortensen said the Eagles were wary of just jumping out and throwing money at him because of his knees, and they were apparently an issue with his physical in KC too. It sounds like he may be the biggest risk of all these guys.

ChiefsCountry · 03-03-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yes, he certainly does.

More than a speedy MLB that can tackle, we need a LEADER. A field general that can direct the defense. Hartwell has not proven he can do that, primarily because he's never been put in that situation. That's a risk.

And the other risk with him is that this is his first big payday. Alot of guys go soft after they get paid.

Hell sign Ty Law if you want a general. He will come back healthy and when he is healthy, he is the top cornerback in the NFL.

Mr. Laz · 03-03-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm just saying that Trotter would be just as good a pickup as Hartwell at this point. The positives and negatives of both cancel each other out.

trotter is only 14 months older than hartwell

3 years longer in the NFL though

Chiefnj · 03-03-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

There's a difference between a 'negative' and a 'risk'. I don't think Hartwell has any real negatives, there aren't character issues, there aren't health issues, there aren't talent issues, and he's been in a position to learn from one of the best. That's not to say there aren't some legitimate questions to be considered. But that's free agency, weighing the risks against the possible rewards.

It's a negative that he's been playing in a 3-4 rather than a 4-3. It's a negative that he hasn't been calling the defense. It's a negative that he hasn't been the vocal leader the Chiefs need. Just my opinion.

**Mr. Kotter** · 03-03-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I'd give my left nut for Rolle, Hartwell/Trotter, and Smith.

Let's hope that you'll need to tell us where to send the surgeon this time tomorrow.

**petegz28** · 03-03-2005, 08:36 PM

I just heard on 610 that Hartwell mumbled something about going somewhere else. Of course that was what I got through all the whining of the show hosts about Hartwell not talking with them. They also just figured out Lucas had been signed.

htismaqe · 03-03-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

There's a difference between a 'negative' and a 'risk'. I don't think Hartwell has any real negatives, there aren't character issues, there aren't health issues, there aren't talent issues, and he's been in a position to learn from one of the best. That's not to say there aren't some legitimate questions to be considered. How will he perform when he's asked to be 'the man'? But that's free agency, weighing the risks against the possible rewards.

If that's the case, then Trotter's knees are technically a "risk". There's nothing wrong with them - they're functional - and we know that because he just finished playing in a Super Bowl.

htismaqe · 03-03-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

trotter is only 14 months older than hartwell

3 years longer in the NFL though

Those 3 years make a WORLD of difference.

Trotter has signed the monster contract. He's then had the humbling experience of being cut and coming back under a 1-year $500k deal. He's been a leader.

Hartwell hasn't done any of those things yet.

**petegz28** · 03-03-2005, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If that's the case, then Trotter's knees are technically a "risk". There's nothing wrong with them - they're functional - and we know that because he just finished playing in a Super Bowl.

I'd be more than surprised at this point if you see Trotter back here.

htismaqe · 03-03-2005, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

It's a negative that he's been playing in a 3-4 rather than a 4-3. It's a negative that he hasn't been calling the defense. It's a negative that he hasn't been the vocal leader the Chiefs need. Just my opinion.

Yep.

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03-03-2005, 08:31 PM	#61
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4152912	Well, Samari leaving for his daughter's B-day is a touchy deal. He's spent 2 days in KC, hasnt visited any other teams, and they are suggesting that they make sure he signs before he leaves? You want to push, but you dont want to push too hard to where the guy just says F you, Im leaving and thats that. I think the fact that he hasnt visited anywhere else, and spent two days here, the first two days of FA no less, is a pretty good sign that some good things have happened at the negotiating table. I think he'll be back. ........I hope he'll come back...... .................please come back Samari...... Uh oh.... __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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03-03-2005, 08:34 PM	#65
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	There's a difference between a 'negative' and a 'risk'. I don't think Hartwell has any real negatives, there aren't character issues, there aren't health issues, there aren't talent issues, and he's been in a position to learn from one of the best. That's not to say there aren't some legitimate questions to be considered. How will he perform when he's asked to be 'the man'? But that's free agency, weighing the risks against the possible rewards.
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03-03-2005, 08:36 PM	#71
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2234127	I just heard on 610 that Hartwell mumbled something about going somewhere else. Of course that was what I got through all the whining of the show hosts about Hartwell not talking with them. They also just figured out Lucas had been signed.
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