I've made up my mind...I know who I want at #15...

[htismaqe]

Thomas Davis.

I realize I'm going to take alot of heat for this one but here's my logic:

1) We need a HEADHUNTER. This guy is probably the best pure tackler in the draft. He's an Ed Reed, a Sean Taylor.

2) We need someone who can tackle at WSLB. Alot of scouts have compared Davis to Derrick Brooks.

3) We need a WSLB who can cover. Davis is an OLB, playing mostly SLB in his career, but he also played his last season at FS and can cover WR's as well as TE's.

And before you start talking about tweeners, please do yourself a favor and read his bio...he's a LB.

http://georgiadogs.collegesports.com..._thomas00.html

[Logical]

Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

A potential LB?

He's ALREADY a LB. That's what gets me. You say you don't have faith in him as a potential LB but that you think he'd make a hella SS, when he's a NATURAL LB and has NEVER PLAYED SS.

As for power, have you seen the guy play? Davis is a rare talent. He's right up there with recent guys like Reed, Vilma, and Taylor. Davis is the kind of guy you can build a defense around.

All draft choices are at best potential position players, that was not the dis you took it as. I look at him from a size standpoint he is the size of a good to great strong safety, but is way too small for a good to great OLB. Now like I said there are exceptions like Derrick Brooks but I do not want us drafting this year based on a guy that can be an exception if he develops. Sure he might but the Chiefs have a horrible history using this methodology.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

Davis hasn't played a down yet either has he?!

I'm not stating Davis is two Hall of Famers COMBINED, am I?

[eazyb81]

If we draft Davis to play WLB, what do we do with Fujita? Do we move him to SLB? If not, who will play SLB? I like the Davis pick, but I think SLB is a bigger need right now and I don't think Davis is big enough to play there.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

just wonder how pimping one player is allowed but not another

You've obviously chosen to act ignorant.

Voyager, err Tribal Warfare, wasn't JUST "pimping" Derrick Johnson. He's said several times that Derrick Johnson is a combination of Jack Lambert and Jack Hamm...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

If we draft Davis to play WLB, what do we do with Fujita? Do we move him to SLB? If not, who will play SLB? I like the Davis pick, but I think SLB is a bigger need right now and I don't think Davis is big enough to play there.

Um, Fujita IS our SSLB. Shawn Barber was our starting WSLB.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by bricks

the article doesn't state much about his game, it just blabs on about his accomplishments. All it says is that he is an excellent tackler, especially in the open field. I noticed Georgia planned to use him as a LB originally, till there starting safety got hurt, and they we're forced to move Davis to safety. He played SLB. Think he can play WLB? I don't see how these scouts can compare him to Derrick Brooks when he hasn't even played WLB, and, was a safety for a majority of his career in college. He's too small to play LB in the NFL, needs to add 10 pounds.

That was precisely why I posted that particular bio. I wasn't interested in hyping his skills or his game but rather pointing out his accomplishments - primarily that he's started more games at SSLB than FS in his career.

[NaptownChief]

Davis is extremely high on my wish list...He isn't at our biggest need position but is one of the more sure things in the draft IMO. Davis, Derrick Johnson and Carlos Rogers are all studs that would be huge pick ups for the Chief D...any of the three would be great picks. I think Davis is the most sure thing on the defensive side of the ball...Biggest question would be to play him at safety or LB'er...Either way I don't think you could go wrong.

[beer bacon]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

If we draft Davis to play WLB, what do we do with Fujita? Do we move him to SLB? If not, who will play SLB? I like the Davis pick, but I think SLB is a bigger need right now and I don't think Davis is big enough to play there.

Isn't Fuj already the starting SLB and Barber the starting WLB, or am I just confused?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

Um, Fujita IS our SSLB. Shawn Barber was our starting WSLB.

really? my bad, I thought Fooj was our will.

carry on...

[crossbow]

I give you props for picking a safety because we only have like 12 of them. I also give major thumbs up for getting a guy that you want to convert to a different position that he will drafted from. Man, you nailed the Chiefs philosophy with that one. But I give you a failing grade for chosing a guy that can play now instead of using a high draft pick on a guy with "upside" or "potential". To make matters worse, you picked a guy that can tackle. Sorry, but if he can tackle he will confuse our coaching staff so he would end up becoming a major bust. They wouldn't know what to do with him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

All draft choices are at best potential position players, that was not the dis you took it as. I look at him from a size standpoint he is the size of a good to great strong safety, but is way too small for a good to great OLB. Now like I said there are exceptions like Derrick Brooks but I do not want us drafting this year based on a guy that can be an exception if he develops. Sure he might but the Chiefs have a horrible history using this methodology.

Size of a safety?

He's 6'1" 231 pounds.

He's 5 pounds heavier than Donovin Darius, and a ful THIRTY pounds heavier than Ed Reed. The average NFL SS is about 215.

He's a LINEBACKER. Period.

[Logical]

I don't like this draft class for linebackers unless you are talking a 3-4 defense. Except for DJ I feel that only O'Dell Thurman and Channing Crowder are true 4-3 guys. Both of those guys should be picked no higher than the 2nd round. If we are truly determined to get a LB and have no shot at DJ I feel we should trade our 1st for 2 2nds (if that is a possibility), give up one for Surtain and use both of the other 2 2nd rounders to try and get either Crowder or Thurman and move Bell outside. Then use the other 2nd for the best true CB avaiable

[Logical]

Originally Posted by crossbow

I give you props for picking a safety because we only have like 12 of them. I also give major thumbs up for getting a guy that you want to convert to a different position that he will drafted from. Man, you nailed the Chiefs philosophy with that one. But I give you a failing grade for chosing a guy that can play now instead of using a high draft pick on a guy with "upside" or "potential". To make matters worse, you picked a guy that can tackle. Sorry, but if he can tackle he will confuse our coaching staff so he would end up becoming a major bust. They wouldn't know what to do with him.

I cannot wait for Titus's reaction to this post, classic.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

really? my bad, I thought Fooj was our will.

carry on...

Don't feel bad, so did I.

[shaneo69]

Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

That was precisely why I posted that particular bio. I wasn't interested in hyping his skills or his game but rather pointing out his accomplishments - primarily that he's started more games at SSLB than FS in his career.

Where are you getting this info from? This article from today's P-D says that he started his soph year at OLB then played FS in '03 and '04.

Highly regarded safety from Georgia visits
By Jim Thomas
Of the Post-Dispatch
04/15/2005

Friday was the last day for pre-draft visits, and the Rams went out with a bang. Headlining a group of four players who visited Rams Park was safety Thomas Davis of Georgia.

Davis has the size of a weakside linebacker (6-1, 230) with the quickness of some cornerbacks. He's the best safety in this year's draft pool, and the Rams might just stop the draft and hold a parade if he's still available at No. 19 overall in the first round. Trouble is, most mock drafts don't have him getting by New Orleans at No. 16, three picks before St. Louis.

Because of his size, and style of play at Georgia, some NFL teams have him projected as a linebacker in the pros.

"Just given what a team needs, I'll be willing to go anywhere, play anything," Davis said at the NFL Scouting Combine.

He proved that several years ago at Randolph-Clay High in Shellman, Ga., handling his team's punting and kicking chores.

"I hit a couple extra points," Davis said. "I think I've got the school record down there. It wasn't very many."

In college, Davis hit more than a few running backs and receivers. He's a big hitter, and a good blitzer who plays with reckless abandon. Sometimes that results in Davis over-pursuing a play. Despite his hitting ability, some observers feel he could use more time in the weight room to build up his strength.

At Georgia, Davis played strongside linebacker in '02, and then switched to free safety in '03 and '04. Although his job title was free safety, he played more like a strong safety, with a lot of run-stuffing responsibilities. Davis freely admits his pass coverage needs polishing.

"I feel like the coverage will be a question because a lot of the times at Georgia, I was mainly used coming down in the box," Davis said. "Or basically, we were just playing zone. We weren't playing a lot of man at Georgia. ... But I feel like I'll show teams that I'm capable of doing it. I have the speed to go out and cover."

Davis ran a surprisingly slow time - for him - of 4.6 seconds in the 40-yard dash at the combine, but was down in the 4.4s at his pro day at Georgia.


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...7?OpenDocument