Never trust a lawyer.... EVER! - Page 5

R&GHomer · 08-31-2005, 10:04 AM

Dirty C**k biters. I had a finale court hearing on Friday, and gave the lawyer a post dated check for Sept 15th to cover the last part of the legal fee's. Son a biatch agreed to cash it on the 15th and then turned around and cashed it that same fuggin afternoon.

Azz bandit just fugged me on my rent and several other bills that I can't pay now until the 9th.

milkman · 08-31-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Maybe so. But if I felt I had to tell that lie to get paid by someone that chose to bail on a bunch of his past debtors, that's a pretty good rationalization in my mind.

As long as we're clear that lying is OK in your book.

**Lzen** · 08-31-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

What other choice does he have? If he says no to waiting until the 15th, then RG comes back and says "well then, I'll have to pay you later" and the lawyer is left hoping that someone who is so broke he had to claim bankruptcy will honor his next debt more than he's honored past debts.

Oh please, save us all the sob story. Last I checked, lawyers don't live paycheck to paycheck.

**Bwana** · 08-31-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

What other choice does he have?

How about the choice of keeping his word?

**Lzen** · 08-31-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

How about the choice of keeping his word?

No kidding. Why is this so hard for him?

jspchief · 08-31-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Oh please, save us all the sob story. Last I checked, lawyers don't live paycheck to paycheck.

Oh, so since they make a good living, it's okay for them to risk getting screwed out of their paycheck?

How many of you people would like your boss to come to you on payday and tell you you'll have to wait another 15 days to get paid? Oh, you don't have to worry about that. But if the customers of the company you worked for all decided to wait 15 days to pay their bill, would you be willing to wait an extra 15 days to get your paycheck? Somehow I doubt it.

As for keeping his word, where does that rank in relation to keeping your word that you will repay your debts?

5 minutes after walking out of the courtroom where he dumped all his debt, R&G is asking for another line of credit. The lawyer should have just flat out said no.

So the question is, what would R&G have done if the lawyer had refused to give him the 15 days?

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2005, 11:33 AM

Um, we all don't like lying, but jspchief has a point.

All of you who disagree, what would you do if you started a new job, learned that your employer was going through bankruptcy, and they asked you to hold your second paycheck with them for a couple of weeks before cashing it? Even if you did hold it, you'd be sweating bullets.

I like R&G Homer, so this has nothing to do with his situation, but I have to ask: did he and the attorney agree ahead of time to hold the check, or did he just hand the attorney the check and say, "Please don't cash this until the 15th." There's a big difference if the attorney agreed ahead of time, or if he just ended up holding a check that he couldn't cash.

That said, a lot of this comes down to the relationship between the two parties. I had one client a while back that ran into financial problems, and I sat on a big invoice for months waiting to get paid. It was a problem, but I knew that they weren't intending to stiff me. Nonetheless, it was still very worrisome. I've had another client that I wouldn't trust a bit, and I made sure that we dotted every i and crossed every t in the contract, because I didn't have a lot of respect for their personal ethics. What we have in R&G Homer's situation is that the attorney obviously didn't trust that the check would be good on the 15th. That may have nothing to do with R&G Homer, and more to do with the guy getting stiffed in the past. Or I guess he could be a money-grubber who wanted that extra 15 days of interest, but that's a stretch. Or his bookkeeper just put it in the bank because he forgot to mention holding it. There could be tons of reasons.

R&GHomer · 08-31-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I realize you don't like what I have to say, but the simple fact is you shouldn't have written a post dated check.

As someone that's dealt with the difficulty of collecting debts, I see the lawyer's side of it. Had it been me, I would have told you to write me a check when you actually had the money, and hoped that I would get paid eventually.

The simple fact is, you thought you could take out a 15 day line of credit with this guy. How often do you buy groceries and ask the store to hold a bad check for 15 days?

No I don't like what you have to say on the matter. Your assumptions and reasoning's are wrong "IMHO". I paid the prick what we initially agreed to "based on what he thought the legal plan would cover" and then it ended up being more, so I asked him if I could pay the remainder on the 15th and he said FINE, NO PROBLEM.

The only, only thing I agree with is I shouldn't have trusted the dirty son biatch and just paid him on the 15th whether he liked it or not. **** him.

I don't care what you think, or assume about the circumstances leading me to this point, but all I can say is Life can turn on you in an instance. I went from a credit raiting in the mid 700 s to bankruptcy in a matter of months.

And one other thing, This fuggtard not only screwed me FOR NO GOOD REASON on this deal. He screwed me on my rent, bills etc.... I'm trying my best to get everything back on track. Now I'm going to have late payments back on my credit report... AHHH Shit I'm getting so mad I'm starting to shake.

Brock · 08-31-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

I don't care what you think, or assume about the circumstances leading me to this point, but all I can say is Life can turn on you in an instance. I went from a credit raiting in the mid 700 s to bankruptcy in a matter of months .

Hey, at least you got the bankruptcy in before the laws changed. Just chalk it up as a learning experience and get on with your life.

R&GHomer · 08-31-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Um, we all don't like lying, but jspchief has a point.

All of you who disagree, what would you do if you started a new job, learned that your employer was going through bankruptcy, and they asked you to hold your second paycheck with them for a couple of weeks before cashing it? Even if you did hold it, you'd be sweating bullets.

I like R&G Homer, so this has nothing to do with his situation, but I have to ask: did he and the attorney agree ahead of time to hold the check, or did he just hand the attorney the check and say, "Please don't cash this until the 15th." There's a big difference if the attorney agreed ahead of time, or if he just ended up holding a check that he couldn't cash.

That said, a lot of this comes down to the relationship between the two parties. I had one client a while back that ran into financial problems, and I sat on a big invoice for months waiting to get paid. It was a problem, but I knew that they weren't intending to stiff me. Nonetheless, it was still very worrisome. I've had another client that I wouldn't trust a bit, and I made sure that we dotted every i and crossed every t in the contract, because I didn't have a lot of respect for their personal ethics. What we have in R&G Homer's situation is that the attorney obviously didn't trust that the check would be good on the 15th. That may have nothing to do with R&G Homer, and more to do with the guy getting stiffed in the past. Or I guess he could be a money-grubber who wanted that extra 15 days of interest, but that's a stretch. Or his bookkeeper just put it in the bank because he forgot to mention holding it. There could be tons of reasons.

He called me about a week prior to the court date and told me it was going to be more. At that point, I told him I couldn't afford it on the first of the month because of other bills, but would it be ok if I gave him a post dated check for the 15th at the court hearing and he said no problem.

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2005, 11:54 AM

Hey, we feel for you, R&GHomer. Good luck in getting it all turned around. At least it sounds like you're getting through the worst part.

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

He called me about a week prior to the court date and told me it was going to be more. At that point, I told him I couldn't afford it on the first of the month because of other bills, but would it be ok if I gave him a post dated check for the 15th at the court hearing and he said no problem.

That makes a difference, in my opinion. Thanks for the info.

KCTitus · 08-31-2005, 11:57 AM

Dont ever trust anyone who solicits a post dated check...post dating a check doesnt prevent that person from depositing or cashing it. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.

Good Luck.

R&GHomer · 08-31-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Hey, at least you got the bankruptcy in before the laws changed. Just chalk it up as a learning experience and get on with your life.

I'm trying my best. Yes, at least I still had the option. Oh, and did I mention that this is the same lawyer I initially hired to talk to the creditors and try work something out. He came back and told me my best course of action, considering my circumstances was to file chapter 7.

jspchief · 08-31-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Dont ever trust anyone who solicits a post dated check...post dating a check doesnt prevent that person from depositing or cashing it. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.

Good Luck.

Actually, the better advice is to not write post dated checks. Or more specifically, don't write checks that you don't have immediate funds to cover.

KCTitus · 08-31-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Actually, the better advice is to not write post dated checks. Or more specifically, don't write checks that you don't have immediate funds to cover.

Right, well that was my point.

08-31-2005, 10:04 AM
R&GHomer Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10004900	Never trust a lawyer.... EVER! Dirty C**k biters. I had a finale court hearing on Friday, and gave the lawyer a post dated check for Sept 15th to cover the last part of the legal fee's. Son a biatch agreed to cash it on the 15th and then turned around and cashed it that same fuggin afternoon. Azz bandit just fugged me on my rent and several other bills that I can't pay now until the 9th.
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08-31-2005, 11:33 AM	#66
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2758491 VARSITY	Um, we all don't like lying, but jspchief has a point. All of you who disagree, what would you do if you started a new job, learned that your employer was going through bankruptcy, and they asked you to hold your second paycheck with them for a couple of weeks before cashing it? Even if you did hold it, you'd be sweating bullets. I like R&G Homer, so this has nothing to do with his situation, but I have to ask: did he and the attorney agree ahead of time to hold the check, or did he just hand the attorney the check and say, "Please don't cash this until the 15th." There's a big difference if the attorney agreed ahead of time, or if he just ended up holding a check that he couldn't cash. That said, a lot of this comes down to the relationship between the two parties. I had one client a while back that ran into financial problems, and I sat on a big invoice for months waiting to get paid. It was a problem, but I knew that they weren't intending to stiff me. Nonetheless, it was still very worrisome. I've had another client that I wouldn't trust a bit, and I made sure that we dotted every i and crossed every t in the contract, because I didn't have a lot of respect for their personal ethics. What we have in R&G Homer's situation is that the attorney obviously didn't trust that the check would be good on the 15th. That may have nothing to do with R&G Homer, and more to do with the guy getting stiffed in the past. Or I guess he could be a money-grubber who wanted that extra 15 days of interest, but that's a stretch. Or his bookkeeper just put it in the bank because he forgot to mention holding it. There could be tons of reasons. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit. Last edited by Rain Man; 08-31-2005 at 11:42 AM..
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08-31-2005, 11:54 AM	#70
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08-31-2005, 11:57 AM	#72
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	Dont ever trust anyone who solicits a post dated check...post dating a check doesnt prevent that person from depositing or cashing it. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way. Good Luck. __________________ Anything you post on this BB can and will be used against you...
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