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booger · 09-02-2006, 01:10 AM

Chiefs hold off on final cuts
Team facing decision on how many offensive-line prospects it will keep.
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The Chiefs initially planned to make their final roster cuts Friday, but they will go down to today’s NFL deadline to pare to the league-mandated 53 players.

Blame it, in part, on Ryan Lilja.

The Chiefs two years ago tried to sneak Lilja, a young offensive-line prospect from Shawnee Mission Northwest and Kansas State, onto their practice squad.

He never made it there. Indianapolis grabbed Lilja off waivers, and he’s now a starter for the Colts.

The Chiefs have since been skittish about exposing good prospects to other teams. The Chiefs were wrestling with exactly how many offensive-line prospects such as tackles Will Svitek and Jeremy Parquet and guards Tre Stallings and Rudy Niswanger they will keep.

“We’ve got some good young offensive linemen,” Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson said. “We’ll make a decision there of keeping nine, maybe 10.”

Otherwise, this year’s cuts aren’t overly taxing for the Chiefs.

“I don’t think there are any (particularly) difficult decisions,” Peterson said.

In another year, perhaps, halfback McKenzi Smith might have made the Chiefs think hard about keeping him. Smith had 51 yards and a touchdown in Thursday night’s 10-9 win over New Orleans and finished the preseason as the Chiefs’ leading rusher.

He has virtually no chance to stick. Larry Johnson is solid as the starter, the Chiefs traded a fourth-round draft pick for Michael Bennett, and they like Dee Brown because of his special-teams skills. The Chiefs don’t have roster space to carry four halfbacks.

Easy decisions materialized for the Chiefs at other positions for other reasons. None of the young cornerbacks proved to coach Herm Edwards that they were ready to play, so the Chiefs will keep veterans Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Lenny Walls and Benny Sapp.

They may also keep fifth-round draft pick Marcus Maxey, but only as a developmental prospect.

On the defensive line, Carlos Hall, John Browning and Junior Siavii were injured throughout the preseason. Their inability to play means the roster spots of tackles Ron Edwards, James Reed, Ryan Sims and Lional Dalton and ends Tamba Hali, Jared Allen, Eric Hicks and Jimmy Wilkerson are safe.

Edwards might have initially held out hope of keeping four quarterbacks, but Casey Printers probably played his way off the roster.

“It’s not tough because I think you can only realistically carry three (quarterbacks) on your 53,” Peterson said. “Now you can carry one on your developmental squad. That’s a possibility. That’s always a question for any young player you want to bring on developmental. If he’s claimed, you can’t. If he’s not, most of them want to stay right here because they know the system.”

Edwards said last week he believed the Chiefs would have as many as 15 new players by the time they trimmed to 53 players. After giving it further thought, Edwards upped the count this week.

“We’ve got some young players who are probably going to make this football team,” he said. “I said there were probably going to be 15 (new) players. I was wrong. There will probably be 20 new players on this team with free-agency and the draft choices we’ve acquired.

“That’s a lot of players, but, hey, that’s kind of good, too, because what we’re trying to do is obviously keep the best players. I said it was going to be a competition, and I think we had a very competitive camp.”

Even after making their cuts, the Chiefs will scan the list of roster moves from around the league and perhaps make another move or two of their own. They are looking for help at wide receiver and on the defensive line.

Then the Chiefs would have even more cuts to make, as the Colts did two years ago when they claimed Lilja.

“That’s the nature of the game,” Peterson said. “Everybody’s got the same problem.”

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boogblaster · 09-02-2006, 01:49 PM

If you look at the better NFL teams they have a good mix of talent young and proven..hope our youth can step up and play on game day... BOOG....

RedThat · 09-02-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That logic is about as dumb as saying "bah god we should never draft florida state players cause the last one we had sucked".

If you want to look at it that way fine.

But the reality is,

Samie Parker>Charles Rogers

Eddie Kennison>Charles Rogers

And I'll even put Dante Hall>Charles Rogers

*Imo, we don't need him, unless we signed him cheap and for depth. As an insurance policy in case Kennison or Parker got hurt. Other than that, we don't need him. There is no use for him.

Mecca · 09-02-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

If you want to look at it that way fine.

But the reality is,

Samie Parker>Charles Rogers

Eddie Kennison>Charles Rogers

And I'll even put Dante Hall>Charles Rogers

*Imo, we don't need him, unless we signed him cheap and for depth. As an insurance policy in case Kennison or Parker got hurt. Other than that, we don't need him. There is no use for him.

I'm not debating of he's better than Parker.....I'm debating that I'd rather have Rogers than f'n Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon. We don't have another WR if Kennison or Parker go down...

I'd also like to point out one more time, for people who think Rogers isn't worth a look you know this is how we found Eddie Kennison right?

Brock · 09-02-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd also like to point out one more time, for people who think Rogers isn't worth a look you know this is how we found Eddie Kennison right?

That's some nice spin right there. I give it a 9.3.

Mecca · 09-02-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

That's some nice spin right there. I give it a 9.3.

It's true though, when the Chiefs signed Kennison he was a 1st round bust scrub that had flamed out with 3 teams.

RedThat · 09-02-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not debating of he's better than Parker.....I'm debating that I'd rather have Rogers than f'n Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon. We don't have another WR if Kennison or Parker go down...

I'd also like to point out one more time, for people who think Rogers isn't worth a look you know this is how we found Eddie Kennison right?

At least Eddie Kennison had a few productive years before we signed him.

What did Charles Rogers show? Nothing.

RedThat · 09-02-2006, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's true though, when the Chiefs signed Kennison he was a 1st round bust scrub that had flamed out with 3 teams.

I wouldn't say he was a scrub. He was a bit productive, but at times inconsistent. He had some attitude issues he needed to clear up.

RedThat · 09-02-2006, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not debating of he's better than Parker.....I'm debating that I'd rather have Rogers than f'n Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon. We don't have another WR if Kennison or Parker go down

And again, this is what I said, if we signed him for cheap as a depth move, It'd be alright.

Mecca · 09-02-2006, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull

And again, this is what I said, if we signed him for cheap as a depth move, It'd be alright.

Ok then we don't have a problem with each other, he's not going to get any kind of money. It just shocks me to no end that people don't even want to take a flyer on the guy when we lack talent at that position.

Like I said lets get enamored with some never will be's at that position like we always do....Boerigter and Horn get replaced with Webb and Hannon and the cycle continues. Posters around here always seem to think some scrub is going to be great and we shouldn't get rid of them.

tk13 · 09-02-2006, 02:15 PM

Wasn't the cut deadline 15 minutes ago? I imagine we'll be hearing something relatively soon.

MichaelH · 09-02-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Bye Kawika. MH doesn't want you here.

Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

jspchief · 09-02-2006, 02:29 PM

Anyone hear the Chiefs cuts yet?

shaneo69 · 09-02-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Anyone hear the Chiefs cuts yet?

Carl should have 'em on the official site first thing tomorrow morning.

VonneMarie · 09-02-2006, 02:50 PM

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