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Old 09-02-2006, 09:43 AM  
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Lions release Rogers

LIONS RELEASE ROGERS

The Detroit Lions have parted ways with receiver Charles Rogers, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2003 draft.

Rogers missed most of his first two seasons due to broken collar bones, and was ineffective in 2004, during which he was suspended four games for violation of the league's substance abuse policy. After the suspension, the team filed a grievance against Rogers for recovery of bonus money. The grievance is still pending.

Prior to the 2003 draft, there were reports that Rogers had generated a positive drug test due to a diluted urine sample. The news didn't deter the Lions and team president Matt Millen.

Other cuts include veteran running back Artose Pinner, linebacker James Davis, and rookie sixth-round CB Dee McCann.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:36 PM   #61
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Yeah. Right. A WR who was in a dispute with his coach over not being around during a serious family issue is the same thing as being a lazy WR with years of proven substance abuse issues.

I could care less if the guy smokes pot, crack, or pole on his own time. However, he's in a role where it affects others on his team. I don't want him anywhere near the Chiefs. Bad attitudes are infectious. Exhibit A- The last years of Marty in KC.
Eddie Kennison was a severe underachiever that had played for 3 teams...considered a first round bust and angered the players in Denver so much they told Shanahan they didn't want him back. If a player had left this team like Kennison did that one you'd be pissed off too. Not saying he's a bad guy but he had major issues too and he turned it around here. I'm simply saying maybe we could do the same with Rogers when we do lack WR's.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:36 PM   #62
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Some players will never work out in certain places....
Yea, like in the NFL
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:37 PM   #63
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Yet you seem positive it means that he would.


While we're at it, we can get Todd (sorry dad, I prefer bong hits) Marinovich in here.

Like I said if it doesn't work out you let him go after the year no harm no foul. It's not like he's going to get any money. You guys are pretty comfortable with position we have 0 depth at.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:38 PM   #64
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Yea, like in the NFL
Says the guy with Brodie Croyle in his Av....
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:39 PM   #65
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I'm simply saying maybe we could do the same with Rogers when we do lack WR's.
I'm simply saying that Rogers hasn't shown a damn thing to make me believe he's worth any effort on the part of this team.

"Potential" ≠ Depth.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:40 PM   #66
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Says the guy with Brodie Croyle in his Av....
Don't worry, in three years if Croyle is as big a bust as Rogers, I'll take him down.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:40 PM   #67
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Says the guy with Brodie Croyle in his Av....
I think we can probably go a few years before we compare Croyle with maximum bust Rogers. And even then, they won't be comparable.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:41 PM   #68
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I'm simply saying that Rogers hasn't shown a damn thing to make me believe he's worth any effort on the part of this team.
That's why he's being cut this time of year.......good players don't just get arbitrally cut a guy cut right now is going to have issues. That's how it is but some guys the risk is worth taking. If he had shown what he was suppose to be he wouldn't be getting cut. I'm sure some team will cut that Pro Bowl WR that will play for no money and has no issues that we can sign today huh
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:41 PM   #69
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You're goddamned right I would! And you'd love me for it!
I'm all for it. That would make for some interesting press conferences.

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You guys are pretty comfortable with position we have 0 depth at.
I'd be much more comfortable addressing 0 depth with a guy that averages 5 games per year. Now that's some quality insurance.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:44 PM   #71
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That's why he's being cut this time of year.......good players don't just get arbitrally cut a guy cut right now is going to have issues. That's how it is but some guys the risk is worth taking. If he had shown what he was suppose to be he wouldn't be getting cut. I'm sure some team will cut that Pro Bowl WR that will play for no money and has no issues that we can sign today huh
Again, you show you don't get my position on this. No one is suggesting that Andre or Chad Johnson is going to be cut so they could be signed by KC. I'm saying that even ignoring his "issues", Rogers hasn't shown me a damn thing in years to make me think he's an upgrade from what we've got on the roster. Yeah, he was great in college. So were Ryan Sims and Ryan Leaf. Hell, Joey Harrington was good in college. Bravo Foxtrot Delta.

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I'd be much more comfortable addressing 0 depth with a guy that averages 5 games per year. Now that's some quality insurance.


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Old 09-02-2006, 01:55 PM   #73
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Again, you show you don't get it. No one is suggesting that Andre or Chad Johnson is going to be cut so they could be signed by KC. I'm saying that even ignoring his "issues", Rogers hasn't shown me a damn thing in years to make me think he's an upgrade from what we've got on the roster. Yeah, he was great in college. So were Ryan Sims and Ryan Leaf. Hell, Joey Harrington was good in college. Bravo Foxtrot Delta.




"Potential" ≠ Depth.
Not only did Rogers not show anything in past years, (somewhat understandable given the Lions offensive woes) he obviously didn't show anything to the entirely new coaching staff.....

If this guy had ANY potential (or maybe a better attitude) Martz would be sucking him off on a daily basis.

Detroit's offensive philosophy has done/will do a 180, which would seem to favor Rogers. Instead, he gets a pink slip.

I think it says a lot when Mike Martz decides that Mike Furrey > Charles Rogers........
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:58 PM   #74
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Mike Furrey played for Martz in St Louis......
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:00 PM   #75
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Mike Furrey played for Martz in St Louis......
Who cares? What did he do 4 years ago in college? That's all that really matters.
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