Is Tamba Hali even on this team? - Page 5

donkhater · 09-18-2006, 09:31 AM

So far he's everything I thought he would be. A smaller, more mobile Eric Hicks. An effort guy with limted quickness and pass rush skills. Did his number even get called yesterday? The week before? Will it ever?

**morphius** · 09-18-2006, 10:32 AM

I really don't know what channel this guy was watching, but I saw Hali all over the place yesterday.

donkhater · 09-18-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This team definitely has shortcomings. DE is no longer one of them.

It's still a shortcoming. Not just as glaring. The putridity of the tackles on both sides of the ball has diverted the attention of the KC fan base elsewhere. The DE's are average at best. I guess for the last few years that's all anyone could hope for. The fact that they are overachievers and effort guys to boot only endears them to the fanbase more and puts them above criticism.

I guess if you guys can live with average, I can too. No more threads on Hali.

ChiefsfaninPA · 09-18-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

That pick gets dumber and dumber by the game.

I thought the same thing watching that disaster they call football in america before the night game. They were showing highlites of the Texans game and basically showed the kid getting man handled by the tackle. He is a pretty tall guy, but he does not look quick at all. He is going to have a hard time in the pros. This isn't college anymore where he can abuse the tackle as easily(unless he meets Black).

Kylo Ren · 09-18-2006, 10:35 AM

I thought Tamba played great. He was everywhere. He was all over the field. I don't know if it showed in his stats or not. On the flip side, I saw Kendrell Bells face twice and only twice. Once he got burned on an endzone pass and once he made a nice play on the RB. That's it. If you want to complain, complain that Fox hasn't taken over for Bell yet.

ChiefsfaninPA · 09-18-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

It's still a shortcoming. Not just as glaring. The putridity of the tackles on both sides of the ball has diverted the attention of the KC fan base elsewhere. The DE's are average at best. I guess for the last few years that's all anyone could hope for. The fact that they are overachievers and effort guys to boot only endears them to the fanbase more and puts them above criticism.

I guess if you guys can live with average, I can too. No more threads on Hali.

You are and idiot. Average. You have no clue what you are talking about. There is no way possible you watched this game. You're trying to get a rise out of us right? Because if you aren't you should never post a football opinion again because there stupid.

**Bob Dole** · 09-18-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

It's still a shortcoming. Not just as glaring. The putridity of the tackles on both sides of the ball has diverted the attention of the KC fan base elsewhere. The DE's are average at best.

They DE's are better than average at this point. Bob Dole would have to go back and look, but Allen was bull-rushing successfully all day. Unfortunately, the interior linemen were getting zero push and Plummer only had to take two steps forward into the pocket.

donkhater · 09-18-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

They DE's are better than average at this point. Bob Dole would have to go back and look, but Allen was bull-rushing successfully all day. Unfortunately, the interior linemen were getting zero push and Plummer only had to take two steps forward into the pocket.

I think Denver is struggling mightly. Since we have a bad history with them in Denver, I think it is somewhat fool's gold to think that yesterday was legit. The defense still gave up 300+ yards and 145 yards rushing. While a lot of that is on the offense for leaving them on the field too long, Denver has not looked like the usual offensive juggernuat yet this season. Call me skeptical.

**Iowanian** · 09-18-2006, 10:46 AM

Can someone use a crayon to explain why lack of pressure from the DTs makes the DEs look worse, and how if the Dline doesnt' get any push, there is an easy pocket for the QB to step into to make a throw?

Denver was held to 9 points over 4 1/2 quarters of play at home.....Cinci was held to very reasonable yards and points...2 consecutive weeks. Its 1 week from being a trend.

Chiefnj · 09-18-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

The DE's are average at best.

Your momma might want to check the lead levels in the drinking water of your home.

Allen is average at best?

Lets compare Allen, a 4th rounder, to the 3 first round DE's taken that draft year. Lets see how productive they've been their first 2 years in the league.

Name.........Sacks......Tackles
Allen..........20...........78
W. Smith....16...........78
K. Udeze.....6............30 (injured most of 2nd season)
Babin..........8............75

Jared Allen has better stats and has been more productive than the three first round picks of 2004. But, I guess he's average if you say so.

htismaqe · 09-18-2006, 10:52 AM

Our DE's are "average"?

--> Jared Allen

--> Tamba Hali

--> "average"

--> donkhater's football IQ

Demonpenz · 09-18-2006, 10:53 AM

Hali and allen were all over the ball. Even plays down the field they were atleast jumping on the pile. That way to finish off the plays helps squash any further yards and wears a team down after awhile. I saw 91 and 69 getting off the piles that no one else in the league would be getting out of the pile from. Good hustle is going to cause a turnover somewhere, just keep doing it 69 and 91

HolmeZz · 09-18-2006, 11:00 AM

Allen and Hali are one of the better DE combos in the league. If we actually had a good DT or two, it'd be that much more evident.

donkhater · 09-18-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Can someone use a crayon to explain why lack of pressure from the DTs makes the DEs look worse, and how if the Dline doesnt' get any push, there is an easy pocket for the QB to step into to make a throw?

Denver was held to 9 points over 4 1/2 quarters of play at home.....Cinci was held to very reasonable yards and points...2 consecutive weeks. Its 1 week from being a trend.

True, the DT aren't helping.

Cincy was a defensive gift. Once Trent was knocked out, Cincy went into 'don't do anything stupid' mode and just wanted to get the hell out of the rain without hurting their QB. I, for one, don't think they would've had much trouble scoring if they really needed to. Denver (by virtue of Plummer's play and Huard looking at them across the line) took the same approach. Don't lose the game. Late in the game, they moved the ball just fine.

Chief Chief · 09-18-2006, 11:08 AM

I'd add my two cents here to concur with others that this is a most worthless thread but that comment alone isn't even worth that miniscule amount of money.

NaptownChief · 09-18-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Hali and allen were all over the ball. Even plays down the field they were atleast jumping on the pile. That way to finish off the plays helps squash any further yards and wears a team down after awhile. I saw 91 and 69 getting off the piles that no one else in the league would be getting out of the pile from. Good hustle is going to cause a turnover somewhere, just keep doing it 69 and 91

Agreed...It was a sight for sore eyes to see them getting in on a lot of plays all over the field...Something we never saw out of Hicks.

09-18-2006, 09:31 AM
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09-18-2006, 10:46 AM	#68
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1648454	Can someone use a crayon to explain why lack of pressure from the DTs makes the DEs look worse, and how if the Dline doesnt' get any push, there is an easy pocket for the QB to step into to make a throw? Denver was held to 9 points over 4 1/2 quarters of play at home.....Cinci was held to very reasonable yards and points...2 consecutive weeks. Its 1 week from being a trend.
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09-18-2006, 10:52 AM	#70
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8079900	Our DE's are "average"? --> Jared Allen --> Tamba Hali --> "average" --> donkhater's football IQ
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09-18-2006, 10:53 AM	#71
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $-443864	Hali and allen were all over the ball. Even plays down the field they were atleast jumping on the pile. That way to finish off the plays helps squash any further yards and wears a team down after awhile. I saw 91 and 69 getting off the piles that no one else in the league would be getting out of the pile from. Good hustle is going to cause a turnover somewhere, just keep doing it 69 and 91 __________________
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09-18-2006, 11:00 AM	#72
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	Allen and Hali are one of the better DE combos in the league. If we actually had a good DT or two, it'd be that much more evident.
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09-18-2006, 11:08 AM	#74
Chief Chief Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	I'd add my two cents here to concur with others that this is a most worthless thread but that comment alone isn't even worth that miniscule amount of money.
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