Manhattan Kansas going after anything even resembling 12 different breeds. - Page 5

BIG_DADDY · 01-31-2007, 06:45 PM

I got to pat myself on the back, some of you said I was crazy. WTF is going on out there in Kansas and Missouri? The mass majority of the country is throwing out BSL but you guys are catering to PETA and HSUS like nobody else by far. Fast track to the slaughter of man's best friend.

Sec. 6-25. Dangerous dogs.
(a) As used in this section, “dangerous dog” shall mean and include any of the following:
(1) Any dog, whether purebred or mix, which is more than ninety (90) days
old, and has the appearance and characteristics of any one or more of the
following breed(s):
i. American Pit Bull Terrier
ii. American Staffordshire Terrier
iii. Bull Terrier
iv. Staffordshire Bull Terrier
v. Argentine Dogo
vi. Cane Corso
vii. Dogue de Bordeaux
viii. Dogo Cubano
ix. Dogo Sardesco
x. Fila Brasileiro
xi. Perro de Presa Canario
xii. Wolf hybrids
(2) Any dog which has attacked a human being or domestic animal without
provocation; or
(3) Any dog, while at-large, that, without provocation, exhibits aggression or
combativeness toward a person or another domestic animal in an apparent
attack, whether or not said person or animal is actually attacked, bitten, or
otherwise physically injured; or
(4) Any dog kept or harbored primarily, or in part, for the purpose of dog
fighting, or any dog trained for dog fighting; or
(5) Any dog, not owned by a governmental or law enforcement unit, used
primarily to guard public or private property; or
(6) Any dog which is known to his keeper or harborer, or reasonably should
be known to his keeper or harborer, to have a propensity, tendency or
disposition to attack unprovoked, to cause injury or to otherwise endanger
the safety of human beings or domestic animals. It is hereby declared to

**Lzen** · 02-02-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Hot off the press, pretty cool for the Twin cities.

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox...Y&pageId=3.2.1

Nice.

wutamess · 02-02-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Looks fine to me. Bad animals are bad. Be gone with them.

wutamess · 02-02-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

I guess you are right. I'd hate to believe a subversive outfit like Center for Disease Control. They are just bunch of known radicals....

I dont have a problem debating with you but if you are just going to run off with this "I have all the facts" ans "everyone else is wrong" approch...then forget it. The fact is You may have the right to own such an animal...I have the right to not want the animal in my neighborhood.

I am not now or at any time ever been a "fear mongering clown"...your words. What I will submit is there is and has been a ton of work done that demonstrates the antisocial behavior of the breed. The article i linked you to goes directly to that issue of the breeds tendency to be violent. Now you may choose to frame that in whatever manner you like but dont call everyone who takes this issue differently than you a "fear mongering clown" or you really dont come across as having a valid point, just a strongly held opinion. I respect your right to your views, Id at least expect the same from you.

As to the move to ban many breeds, that is currently the favorite tactic of the pitbull proponants as a means to enlist the support of dog owners in general...and its clearly not working. Few Labradore owners are going torush out to help a pitbull owner who tries to link the two breeds as somehow equally docile. Its just not so.

To equate a bite by poodle to an attack by a pitbull is foolish and carrys no relative weight in this issue.

I will also state that you try somehow to align PETA with people who oppose your views. Well, that has little merit. PETA is a group that I would catagorize as fringe wackjobs...They have few stands that I can agree with. If they are involved in a pit bull ban its certainly not from a protection viewpoint so dont try to paint all people who view pitbulls as a menace with the PETA brush.

Candidate for post of the year?

My sis-n-law has a Pit and we don't let the kids be around her dog even though it's trained, etc. We're fear mongered. But the statistics aren't really looking too well even though the dog is well trained.

I say get rid of all "large" aggressive compulsive behaviored dogs and life would be that much better.

Sorry BD, but I think they should be banned also. 3 kids & 1 on the way. I don't need to hear about the poodle biting someone's ankles but I DO need to hear about the pitt that killed someone trying to take it back to it's owner. Or the pits that almost killed a man here this winter in K.C. Or the Pit (in the same week) that mauled a K.C. elderly woman to death.

I don't give a shit who their owner was. I don't give a shit if the Pit grew up without a father figure, etc. I'd just rather get rid of the breed.

You're just gonna have to lump me in the idiot pile.

~Pittbull hype believing idiot.

BIG_DADDY · 02-02-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

Candidate for post of the year?

My sis-n-law has a Pit and we don't let the kids be around her dog even though it's trained, etc. We're fear mongered. But the statistics aren't really looking too well even though the dog is well trained.

I say get rid of all "large" agreesive compulsive behavioured dogs and life would be that much better.

Sorry BD, but I think they should be banned also. 3 kids & 1 on the way. I don't need to hear about the poodle biting someone's ankles but I DO need to hear about the pitt that killed someone trying to take it back to it's owner. Or the pits that almost killed a man here this winter in K.C.

You're just gonna have to lump me in the idiot pile.

~Pittbull hype believing idiot.

I have two pits I use every year to break people in. I go to a park and put up a sign that says pet a real pit bull. I converted countless people. The kids love them. My buddy that fights them had his dog Hellboy out the other day running it. Some guy yelled at him about having a pitbull when he ran by the a bakery. Before it was over all the kids were petting it an it was licking their faces. Did you see the thread I just posted? Top search and rescue team in the bay area are pit bulls. Yes they go after lost kids. http://www.forpitssake.org/sar.html People have tried to kill these life saving dogs more than once.

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petb...s/sarpits.html

http://www.pitbullpress.com/ARTICLES...nd.rescue.html

Occasionally someone teaches their dog to be human aggressive but it's a huge exception to the rule and is not breed specific. Most of them are not real pit bulls either. I would challenge anyone to find an article where a dog man had his pit bite a human ever.

Exposure is usually the key, you are a very rare exception. Like I said I have converted coutless parents and kids.

MOhillbilly · 02-02-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

I guess you are right. I'd hate to believe a subversive outfit like Center for Disease Control. They are just bunch of known radicals....

what about the H5N1 hype?

anything that isnt considered a socialy viable domesticated animal has come under scrunity from govt. and mediahype type outlets.

BIG_DADDY · 02-02-2007, 01:34 PM

One more thing. Most of the people I know who have kids and pits have the dog sleeping the their kids bed with them. Never an incident. I will have a kid this year. Mine will eventually sleep the child as well.

BIG_DADDY · 02-02-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

what about the H5N1 hype?

anything that isnt considered a socialy viable domesticated animal has come under scrunity from govt. and mediahype type outlets.

He has already tucked his tail and ran. I think he's a cat guy.

MOhillbilly · 02-02-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

He has already tucked his tail and ran. I think he's a cat guy.

i got me a treeing walker pup. ntch on top and bottom(dog is acouple from being gr ntch and SS). little ****er is head strong but whip smart. Moxie just seems to ignore him,though she did let it be know her pig ear was hers and Homers was his.

Edit- id like to add that the same types that are after bulldog types are also after hound and to a lesser extent gundog types.

BIG_DADDY · 02-02-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

i got me a treeing walker pup. ntch on top and bottom(dog is acouple from being gr ntch and SS). little ****er is head strong but whip smart. Moxie just seems to ignore him,though she did let it be know her pig ear was hers and Homers was his.

NICE. YOu know anything about those caucasion shepherds I posted about in this link?

ndbbm · 02-02-2007, 01:46 PM

Im still in shock that they lumped bull terriers in there.

Behold, the child killing, infant eating Lincoln...

Give me a fooking break.

MOhillbilly · 02-02-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

NICE. YOu know anything about those caucasion shepherds I posted about in this link?

bigger blockier have a dualcoat. smart,strong willed. not for the novice.

i actually like the look better than the GSD. more of a rough country type imo.

heres pics of the gyp mines the second tail from the left.

BIG_DADDY · 02-02-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ndbbm

Im still in shock that they lumped bull terriers in there.

Behold, the child killing, infant eating Lincoln...

Give me a fooking break.

Looks like a child killing man eater to me dude.

BIG_DADDY · 02-02-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

bigger blockier have a dualcoat. smart,strong willed. not for the novice.

i actually like the look better than the GSD. more of a rough country type imo.

heres pics of the gyp mines the second tail from the left.

Cool, I love them pups.

ndbbm · 02-02-2007, 01:58 PM

I guess I should also note that the Westminster Kennel Club championship was won by Rufus in 2006....Rufus, the Bull Terrier.

And Lincoln's father, by the way.

wutamess · 02-02-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

One more thing. Most of the people I know who have kids and pits have the dog sleeping the their kids bed with them. Never an incident. I will have a kid this year. Mine will eventually sleep the child as well.

I really don't want to ask this ? but curious as to what your response would be. But let's say that something happened to child while your pit was sleeping with it.

Would you change your stance or how would you bring some sense to the situation?

It really didn't feel good typing it out (and carefully choosing words) but like I said... I want to know your answer.

01-31-2007, 06:45 PM
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $2558410	Manhattan Kansas going after anything even resembling 12 different breeds. I got to pat myself on the back, some of you said I was crazy. WTF is going on out there in Kansas and Missouri? The mass majority of the country is throwing out BSL but you guys are catering to PETA and HSUS like nobody else by far. Fast track to the slaughter of man's best friend. Sec. 6-25. Dangerous dogs. (a) As used in this section, “dangerous dog” shall mean and include any of the following: (1) Any dog, whether purebred or mix, which is more than ninety (90) days old, and has the appearance and characteristics of any one or more of the following breed(s): i. American Pit Bull Terrier ii. American Staffordshire Terrier iii. Bull Terrier iv. Staffordshire Bull Terrier v. Argentine Dogo vi. Cane Corso vii. Dogue de Bordeaux viii. Dogo Cubano ix. Dogo Sardesco x. Fila Brasileiro xi. Perro de Presa Canario xii. Wolf hybrids (2) Any dog which has attacked a human being or domestic animal without provocation; or (3) Any dog, while at-large, that, without provocation, exhibits aggression or combativeness toward a person or another domestic animal in an apparent attack, whether or not said person or animal is actually attacked, bitten, or otherwise physically injured; or (4) Any dog kept or harbored primarily, or in part, for the purpose of dog fighting, or any dog trained for dog fighting; or (5) Any dog, not owned by a governmental or law enforcement unit, used primarily to guard public or private property; or (6) Any dog which is known to his keeper or harborer, or reasonably should be known to his keeper or harborer, to have a propensity, tendency or disposition to attack unprovoked, to cause injury or to otherwise endanger the safety of human beings or domestic animals. It is hereby declared to
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BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $2558410	One more thing. Most of the people I know who have kids and pits have the dog sleeping the their kids bed with them. Never an incident. I will have a kid this year. Mine will eventually sleep the child as well. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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02-02-2007, 01:46 PM	#70
ndbbm No mas Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Amish Country. Casino cash: $10004900	Im still in shock that they lumped bull terriers in there. Behold, the child killing, infant eating Lincoln... Give me a fooking break.
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02-02-2007, 01:58 PM	#74
ndbbm No mas Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Amish Country. Casino cash: $10004900	I guess I should also note that the Westminster Kennel Club championship was won by Rufus in 2006....Rufus, the Bull Terrier. And Lincoln's father, by the way.
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