Dre Bly hates the Denver Broncos! - Page 5

Hammock Parties · 03-06-2007, 07:27 PM

First Plummer, now Bly gives them the business. Must be Shanahan's endearing personality.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=2789949

DENVER -- The Broncos have heard Dre' Bly is bitter about being traded to Denver, and that he'd prefer to play for Washington.

The team, though, wants to give their new cornerback some time to warm up to the deal. It's only been a few days since the 29-year-old Bly was acquired from Detroit -- along with a sixth-round pick -- for running back Tatum Bell, offensive lineman George Foster and a fifth-round pick.

"Hopefully he'll see the light," said Jim Bates, assistant head coach in charge of defense, at a Tuesday get-together for the Broncos' new coaches. "He'll see the opportunity in Denver of being part of a great football team, great organization and being opposite the side of Champ Bailey. Hopefully he'll come around and say, 'Hey, this is where I want to be."

Bates hasn't spoken to Bly personally, but said others, including coach Mike Shanahan and general manager Ted Sundquist, have contacted him.

Bly's agent, Kennard McGuire, didn't return a call or an e-mail from the Associated Press.

"I don't know what Dre's thinking," Bates said. "Hopefully, over the next couple weeks, he'll come our direction and be positive. We want a positive player once we get in here."

The Washington Post, citing people it did not name, reported Bly would rather play for the Redskins because they're closer to his home in Chesapeake, Va.

However, Denver doesn't have any plans to deal their newly acquired defensive back just yet.

"We expect him to be playing corner for us," said Bates, who was out of football last season, but spent the 2005 season as Green Bay's defensive coordinator. "We'd love for him to be all fired up and get ready to roll. Sometimes, especially in today's game, you have to have a little patience and it takes a little time."

The thought of Bly and Bailey holding down the corners for the Broncos brings a smile to the face of Bates. The Broncos can apply more pressure because they don't have to worry about either Pro Bowl player needing extra help.

Bates has already studied film of Bailey from last season and was amazed at the footage. Bailey tied for the league lead in interceptions with 10 and finished second in the Defensive Player of the Year voting.

"I've been fortunate to be around some great corners," Bates said. "I don't think anyone has been more complete from what I've seen on tape than Champ. A lot of these guys were great cover guys, maybe a little inconsistent in the tackling area. Champ does it all, and does it all at a high level."

Denver's Domonique Foxworth was penciled in as the starting right corner until the Bly deal. Foxworth will likely fill the nickel role.

The Broncos are still trying to recover from the loss of cornerback Darrent Williams, who was killed in a drive-by shooting on New Year's Day. The case remains unsolved.

Bly has 33 career interceptions, the fourth-most in the league since 1999. He's returned five interceptions for touchdowns in his career.

Now if the Broncos could only get him to warm up to the deal.

"We've heard some of his remarks since the trade's been made, but hopefully he'll see the light as far as playing opposite Champ Bailey," Bates said. "I think it would be a great opportunity for him."

htismaqe · 03-07-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It wouldn't shock me at all... bit of a gamble, but for some reason, Snyder likes to roll over and bite the pillow when Denver calls about a trade idea.

I believe the word you're looking for is "collusion".

Mecca · 03-07-2007, 01:45 PM

It'll be real thrilling to see the Broncos end up with Shawn Springs and Gaines Adams......

Mile High Mania · 03-07-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I believe the word you're looking for is "collusion".

How is that possible?

htismaqe · 03-07-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

How is that possible?

It's the NFL's favorite franchise and the NFL's richest owner. They can do whatever the hell they want.

At worst, Denver will get a 3rd or 4th-rounder from Washington to cover the penalty...

Archie Bunker · 03-07-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It'll be real thrilling to see the Broncos end up with Shawn Springs and Gaines Adams......

Only Denver gets this lucky.

**the Talking Can** · 03-07-2007, 01:56 PM

Shawn Hamstring Springs?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-07-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HerculesRockefell

Not too crazy, just depends on what the Skins are expecting in return. The Skins beat writer in the Washington Post seems to think Denver's going to give up almost their entire 1st day and Bly for the 6th overall.

That's about right, depending on how you view Bly's value.

Taking Bly out of the equation for a minute.....

According to the Value Chart:

R1, pick 6 is worth 1600

It would take all of Denver's Day One picks (R1, R2, R3x2) to get anywhere close. (1540)

Throwing Springs in the deal would mean Denver wouldhave to give MORE picks to make up for getting the 6th overall, assuming you think Bly and Springs are equally talented.

Bottom line: It SHOULD take a fortune for Denver to move to the 6th spot......

03-07-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's the NFL's favorite franchise and the NFL's richest owner. They can do whatever the hell they want.

At worst, Denver will get a 3rd or 4th-rounder from Washington to cover the penalty...

We also didn't land on the moon. Please, tell us that story again.

Mecca · 03-07-2007, 01:58 PM

The Redskins don't make logical trades.....

Mile High Mania · 03-07-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Shawn Hamstring Springs?

That has to be the weirdest middle name that I've seen in a while.

HerculesRockefell · 03-07-2007, 02:00 PM

I know what the value chart says, but Denver's not forced to trade Bly and this draft's strengths are what Denver needs- DL and safety. I'm sure they'd love to be in position for Adams, Branch, Anderson, or Okoye, but at the same time, they can stand pat and fill more needs. Denver's not going to give up their entire 1st day for one guy.

and an older, injury-prone corner is not valued the same as Bly

**the Talking Can** · 03-07-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That has to be the weirdest middle name that I've seen in a while.

I mean his literal hamstrings...doesn't he have an extensive history of injuries?

given his age and injuries, I'm not sure Bly isn't the better long term prospect, but I haven't watched him play much...

htismaqe · 03-07-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shrek6849

We also didn't land on the moon. Please, tell us that story again.

PROVEN cheaters ALWAYS deflect.

03-07-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

PROVEN cheaters ALWAYS deflect.

You can have YOUR conspiracy THEORIES, please post MORE of them because they GENERALLY make me laugh. I'm ACTUALLY a big fan of you as a POSTER. Tell me the ONE about JFK and the GRASSY knoll.

Mile High Mania · 03-07-2007, 02:14 PM

I don't know what the injury history is with Springs...

And, regarding Snyder... I just think he sucks at wheeling and dealing.

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $790478	Dre Bly hates the Denver Broncos! First Plummer, now Bly gives them the business. Must be Shanahan's endearing personality. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=2789949 DENVER -- The Broncos have heard Dre' Bly is bitter about being traded to Denver, and that he'd prefer to play for Washington. The team, though, wants to give their new cornerback some time to warm up to the deal. It's only been a few days since the 29-year-old Bly was acquired from Detroit -- along with a sixth-round pick -- for running back Tatum Bell, offensive lineman George Foster and a fifth-round pick. "Hopefully he'll see the light," said Jim Bates, assistant head coach in charge of defense, at a Tuesday get-together for the Broncos' new coaches. "He'll see the opportunity in Denver of being part of a great football team, great organization and being opposite the side of Champ Bailey. Hopefully he'll come around and say, 'Hey, this is where I want to be." Bates hasn't spoken to Bly personally, but said others, including coach Mike Shanahan and general manager Ted Sundquist, have contacted him. Bly's agent, Kennard McGuire, didn't return a call or an e-mail from the Associated Press. "I don't know what Dre's thinking," Bates said. "Hopefully, over the next couple weeks, he'll come our direction and be positive. We want a positive player once we get in here." The Washington Post, citing people it did not name, reported Bly would rather play for the Redskins because they're closer to his home in Chesapeake, Va. However, Denver doesn't have any plans to deal their newly acquired defensive back just yet. "We expect him to be playing corner for us," said Bates, who was out of football last season, but spent the 2005 season as Green Bay's defensive coordinator. "We'd love for him to be all fired up and get ready to roll. Sometimes, especially in today's game, you have to have a little patience and it takes a little time." The thought of Bly and Bailey holding down the corners for the Broncos brings a smile to the face of Bates. The Broncos can apply more pressure because they don't have to worry about either Pro Bowl player needing extra help. Bates has already studied film of Bailey from last season and was amazed at the footage. Bailey tied for the league lead in interceptions with 10 and finished second in the Defensive Player of the Year voting. "I've been fortunate to be around some great corners," Bates said. "I don't think anyone has been more complete from what I've seen on tape than Champ. A lot of these guys were great cover guys, maybe a little inconsistent in the tackling area. Champ does it all, and does it all at a high level." Denver's Domonique Foxworth was penciled in as the starting right corner until the Bly deal. Foxworth will likely fill the nickel role. The Broncos are still trying to recover from the loss of cornerback Darrent Williams, who was killed in a drive-by shooting on New Year's Day. The case remains unsolved. Bly has 33 career interceptions, the fourth-most in the league since 1999. He's returned five interceptions for touchdowns in his career. Now if the Broncos could only get him to warm up to the deal. "We've heard some of his remarks since the trade's been made, but hopefully he'll see the light as far as playing opposite Champ Bailey," Bates said. "I think it would be a great opportunity for him."
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