Belichick Must Pay - Page 5

Hammock Parties · 09-12-2007, 10:41 PM

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When I heard about the outrageous cheating committed by the Patriots this past Sunday, my initial reaction was to call for the league to hit New England where it hurts most: the NFL draft

Draft picks are the lifeblood of any successful NFL franchise. You can’t build a competitive team through free agency (as the Washington Redskins continue to prove). The Patriots, Indianapolis Colts and Philadelphia Eagles draft well each year and continue to win.

Robbing the Patriots of their entire allotment of picks in next April’s draft would have sent a harsh message – cheating will not be tolerated. But it’s too harsh. It hurts the entire team – the coaches, players and front office personnel – and the entire team wasn’t responsible for what happened on New York’s sideline on Sunday. One man was.

Bill Belichick.

Belichick should be the one to pay the ultimate price for this transgression. He’s clearly the ringleader. It’s absurd to speculate that any assistant coach conspired with his co-workers to pull this off. New England’s head coach obviously signed off on the deal to steal New York’s signals, and as the man in charge, he should be the one to pay.

The NFL should suspend Belichick for the remainder of the 2007 season, without pay. He should be barred from participating with the team in any football-related matter, and all communication concerning coaching matters should be cut off.

This heavily penalizes Belichick while taking an appropriate toll on his team. Who knows what advantages they gained against the Jets with Randy Moss running through New York’s pilfered coverages. Without their head coach, the Patriots will be robbed of their leader and key strategist for a suitable time.

It’s unfair to take away draft picks. It robs New England’s players of the tools to get the job done on the field next year, and in future years. You might say taking away only a couple of picks would be punishment enough, but it’s not, especially for a team that’s as well-built in the present and drafts as well as the Patriots do.

This isn’t just about the Patriots, either. There are probably similar cases of undiscovered cheating going on around the league every weekend. We’d be naive fools to think otherwise.

Cutting off New England’s head (Belichick) will make everyone stand up and take notice.

It was important for NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to do the right thing with Michael Vick, regardless of his status as a big-name quarterback. He sent a clear message to every NFL player when he suspended Vick indefinitely – behavior that reflects badly on the league will not be tolerated.

If Goodell doesn’t take the same stance with Belichick, he risks alienating hundreds of players league wide. Let Belichick off scott free, and it looks like players are accountable, but coaches aren’t.

Here’s the really disgusting part of this – Belichick isn’t apologetic in the least. In an official statement released on New England’s website, he referred to the blatant stealing of New York’s defensive signals as “a videotaping procedure” and “my interpretation of the rules.” That’s like Pacman Jones describing his illicit nightclub-related activities as “relaxation procedures” and “my interpretation of what I can get away with.”

For Goodell’s sake, I hope the penalty that comes down from the league offices doesn’t scream “double standard.” It’d be a shame, especially after the league took appropriate action with former Vikings head coach Mike Tice during his ticket-scalping scandal. Just because Belichick has won a few Super Bowls is no reason to treat him differently.

In fact, Belichick’s success only gives the league more reason to step in. Patriots owner Robert Kraft isn’t going to do anything, so someone who doesn’t have an emotional and financial investment in Belichick must.

I think it’s time for a “punishment procedure.”

Thig Lyfe · 09-13-2007, 03:35 PM

BELICHICK MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigChiefFan · 09-13-2007, 03:40 PM

1 year suspension for BB and their first 3 rounds of picks, this year and next. They've been warned and they still did it.

orange · 09-13-2007, 03:46 PM

Something like this would get their attention I think:

PARIS (AP) - The McLaren team was fined $100 million and stripped of all of its points in the constructors' standings Thursday in the spy scandal that has rocked the sport.

Team drivers Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, who are currently 1-2 in the championship standings, were not punished and can continue to compete for the season title.
McLaren could still be penalized for the 2008 championship, FIA said in a statement after a hearing.

McLaren, which leads the current drivers' and constructors' standings, was punished by the World Motor Sports Council for allegedly using leaked secret technical documents belonging to F1 rival Ferrari.

http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story/7217894?MSNHPHMA

redsurfer11 · 09-14-2007, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by redsurfer11

Remove Belichick for 6 games.
Lose picks 2 and 3
Lose 16th of their salery cap next year.
Forfeit game to Jets.
6 million $ fine.
That should be enough to keep them from doing this again.

The Pats got off easy,

Amnorix · 09-14-2007, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

1 year suspension for BB and their first 3 rounds of picks, this year and next. They've been warned and they still did it.

Are you sure you're not a Jets fan?

Amnorix · 09-14-2007, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by redsurfer11

The Pats got off easy,

No, you're insane.

The point is to punish the Patriots, not cripple them.

Would you honestly advocate this same punishment if the Chiefs had done this.

**2112** · 09-14-2007, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

The point is to punish the Patriots, not cripple them.

Punish them for what?

I thought it was Mangini's fault?

Amnorix · 09-14-2007, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Parcells

Punish them for what?

I thought it was Mangini's fault?

Let's just say that the border war just got ridiculously personal. And Mangini better make sure he runs a VERY clean operation himself.

**2112** · 09-14-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Let's just say that the border war just got ridiculously personal. And Mangini better make sure he runs a VERY clean operation himself.

The border war has blown up like a MOFO!

I know it's been a difficult week for you guys, you had a big win and absolutely no time to gloat.

I'm interested to see how they look Sunday night.

Oh, and to suggest that this wasn't a distraction this week is sheer lunacy.

Amnorix · 09-14-2007, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Parcells

The border war has blown up like a MOFO!

I know it's been a difficult week for you guys, you had a big win and absolutely no time to gloat.

I'm interested to see how they look Sunday night.

Oh, and to suggest that this wasn't a distraction this week is sheer lunacy.

Yeah. If only we were playing some stupid NFC team. I wouldn't care mucha bout a loss then. But this is for bye and home field advantage. IMHO if Pats had bye week we would've won last year against the Colts. We didn't even need HFA. Our defense was totally gassed the 2nd half, and we couldn't lift a finger to stop them.

That was our third playoff game, and their second. Doesn't take a genius to connect those dots.

cadmonkey · 09-14-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Parcells

Oh, and to suggest that this wasn't a distraction this week is sheer lunacy.

No doubt, but with it being a home game I think they should be ok. If this came out and they had to deal with a hostile road crowd I would be very concerned. But the "friendly" Gillette crowd will help calm the nerves.

BucEyedPea · 09-14-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Yeah. If only we were playing some stupid NFC team. I wouldn't care mucha bout a loss then. But this is for bye and home field advantage. IMHO if Pats had bye week we would've won last year against the Colts. We didn't even need HFA. Our defense was totally gassed the 2nd half, and we couldn't lift a finger to stop them.

That was our third playoff game, and their second. Doesn't take a genius to connect those dots.

Wonder if the NFL will now investigate the rumor that Polian heated up the RCA Dome warmer than usual which didn't help the Pats having the flu?

Anything to get an edge.

BucEyedPea · 09-14-2007, 07:20 AM

Any truth to the report or rumor that the NFL is going to be sweeping all stadiums in the league of bugs and listening devices?

If so. Beware all you righteous folks!

My take on this...is that this type of thing will go on in some other way.
One idea is to just have one guy or two, who stand on the sidelines making notes, even quick sketches of signals while observing the play on the field. No technology usde and within the rules. Legit and legal. There now, I think I just created a new job for myself.

cadmonkey · 09-14-2007, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Wonder if the NFL will now investigate the rumor that Polian heated up the RCA Dome warmer than usual which didn't help the Pats having the flu?

Anything to get an edge.

or pumping in crowd noise over the P.A.

09-12-2007, 10:41 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4170478	Belichick Must Pay http://chiefs.scout.com/2/679048.html When I heard about the outrageous cheating committed by the Patriots this past Sunday, my initial reaction was to call for the league to hit New England where it hurts most: the NFL draft Draft picks are the lifeblood of any successful NFL franchise. You can’t build a competitive team through free agency (as the Washington Redskins continue to prove). The Patriots, Indianapolis Colts and Philadelphia Eagles draft well each year and continue to win. Robbing the Patriots of their entire allotment of picks in next April’s draft would have sent a harsh message – cheating will not be tolerated. But it’s too harsh. It hurts the entire team – the coaches, players and front office personnel – and the entire team wasn’t responsible for what happened on New York’s sideline on Sunday. One man was. Bill Belichick. Belichick should be the one to pay the ultimate price for this transgression. He’s clearly the ringleader. It’s absurd to speculate that any assistant coach conspired with his co-workers to pull this off. New England’s head coach obviously signed off on the deal to steal New York’s signals, and as the man in charge, he should be the one to pay. The NFL should suspend Belichick for the remainder of the 2007 season, without pay. He should be barred from participating with the team in any football-related matter, and all communication concerning coaching matters should be cut off. This heavily penalizes Belichick while taking an appropriate toll on his team. Who knows what advantages they gained against the Jets with Randy Moss running through New York’s pilfered coverages. Without their head coach, the Patriots will be robbed of their leader and key strategist for a suitable time. It’s unfair to take away draft picks. It robs New England’s players of the tools to get the job done on the field next year, and in future years. You might say taking away only a couple of picks would be punishment enough, but it’s not, especially for a team that’s as well-built in the present and drafts as well as the Patriots do. This isn’t just about the Patriots, either. There are probably similar cases of undiscovered cheating going on around the league every weekend. We’d be naive fools to think otherwise. Cutting off New England’s head (Belichick) will make everyone stand up and take notice. It was important for NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to do the right thing with Michael Vick, regardless of his status as a big-name quarterback. He sent a clear message to every NFL player when he suspended Vick indefinitely – behavior that reflects badly on the league will not be tolerated. If Goodell doesn’t take the same stance with Belichick, he risks alienating hundreds of players league wide. Let Belichick off scott free, and it looks like players are accountable, but coaches aren’t. Here’s the really disgusting part of this – Belichick isn’t apologetic in the least. In an official statement released on New England’s website, he referred to the blatant stealing of New York’s defensive signals as “a videotaping procedure” and “my interpretation of the rules.” That’s like Pacman Jones describing his illicit nightclub-related activities as “relaxation procedures” and “my interpretation of what I can get away with.” For Goodell’s sake, I hope the penalty that comes down from the league offices doesn’t scream “double standard.” It’d be a shame, especially after the league took appropriate action with former Vikings head coach Mike Tice during his ticket-scalping scandal. Just because Belichick has won a few Super Bowls is no reason to treat him differently. In fact, Belichick’s success only gives the league more reason to step in. Patriots owner Robert Kraft isn’t going to do anything, so someone who doesn’t have an emotional and financial investment in Belichick must. I think it’s time for a “punishment procedure.”
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orange MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $10004900	Something like this would get their attention I think: PARIS (AP) - The McLaren team was fined $100 million and stripped of all of its points in the constructors' standings Thursday in the spy scandal that has rocked the sport. Team drivers Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, who are currently 1-2 in the championship standings, were not punished and can continue to compete for the season title. McLaren could still be penalized for the 2008 championship, FIA said in a statement after a hearing. McLaren, which leads the current drivers' and constructors' standings, was punished by the World Motor Sports Council for allegedly using leaked secret technical documents belonging to F1 rival Ferrari. http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story/7217894?MSNHPHMA
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