The Official Walter Football Mock Draft Thread

[PHOG]

He's only telling (writing) it how it is.

[OnTheWarpath15]

That's a SOLID 5 rounds.

[Direckshun]

Walter continues to set his crosshairs on Carl:

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Let me ask you a question. Say you have a top-five pick, and you're looking at three talented players to draft with your selection. One of the guys might be slightly higher rated than the other two, but he has had chronic knee problems the past two years. He didn't miss any time, but he's always been in pain. Upon examining the player at the hospital instead of watching him working out at the combine, one doctor says he has major concerns about the prospect's knees. A week later, there are reports of other injuries no one even knew about. So, do you take a major risk and pray that his body holds up for 8-10 seasons, or do you take the slightly lesser talent, knowing that lingering injuries definitely won't be a problem?

It looks like some team may gamble on Glenn Dorsey, especially after seeing him work out in the flesh at LSU's Pro Day. I, however, wouldn't take the risk in the first five selections. At No. 9, maybe. Not at No. 5.

However, we've seen Kansas City general manager Carl Peterson screw up draft after draft. In fact, from all of the Chiefs' drafts from 2000 to 2005, there are currently only six players on the roster (thanks to forum poster titan_qb_3 for pointing out that embarrassing stat). Of all the teams atop the 2008 Draft, the squad most likely to spend a top pick on a major injury risk (think Courtney Brown) is the Chiefs, which is actually pretty sad because the Raiders are slotted at No. 4.

Look, I hope I'm wrong about Dorsey. He was a dominant player at LSU and I hope he has a great NFL career. I just wouldn't recommend spending a top selection on a guy so brittle. But with Jake Long unavailable, it looks like that's what Kansas City is going to do.

But what about Matt Ryan? Not a chance. Once again, Matt Ryan's not a top-five prospect. I heard about the Chiefs sending the 64,000 people to his Pro Day. Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Sam Baker, OT, USC
Perhaps the team that benefits most from the DeAngelo Hall trade is Kansas City; without the Raiders drafting in front of them, there's a greater chance Sam Baker will still be on the board. If Baker's available, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Baker on the Chiefs' offensive front.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences. Law, another bust signing by inept general manager Carl Peterson, was recently cut.

101. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
The Chiefs look like they're going with Brodie Croyle in 2008, but I don't think they'll be able to resist Josh Johnson if he's available at this juncture. I've never been impressed with Croyle; he has yet to win a game as a starting quarterback in the NFL (0-6).


127. Kansas City Chiefs: John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

131. Kansas City Chiefs: D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.

[ChiefsCountry]

Dorsey and Baker would be an amazing draft.

[OnTheWarpath15]

That would be a damn fine first 5 rounds.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Dorsey and Baker would be an amazing draft.

boner worthy

[Direckshun]

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Let me ask you a question. Say you have a top-five pick, and you're looking at three talented players to draft with your selection. One of the guys might be slightly higher rated than the other two, but he has had chronic knee problems the past two years. He didn't miss any time, but he's always been in pain. Upon examining the player at the hospital instead of watching him working out at the combine, one doctor says he has major concerns about the prospect's knees. A week later, there are reports of other injuries no one even knew about. So, do you take a major risk and pray that his body holds up for 8-10 seasons, or do you take the slightly lesser talent, knowing that lingering injuries definitely won't be a problem?

It looks like some team may gamble on Glenn Dorsey, especially after seeing him work out in the flesh at LSU's Pro Day. I, however, wouldn't take the risk in the first five selections. At No. 9, maybe. Not at No. 5.

However, we've seen Kansas City general manager Carl Peterson screw up draft after draft. In fact, from all of the Chiefs' drafts from 2000 to 2005, there are currently only six players on the roster (thanks to forum poster titan_qb_3 for pointing out that embarrassing stat). Of all the teams atop the 2008 Draft, the squad most likely to spend a top pick on a major injury risk (think Courtney Brown) is the Chiefs, which is actually pretty sad because the Raiders are slotted at No. 4.

Look, I hope I'm wrong about Dorsey. He was a dominant player at LSU and I hope he has a great NFL career. I just wouldn't recommend spending a top selection on a guy so brittle. But with Jake Long unavailable, it looks like that's what Kansas City is going to do.

But what about Matt Ryan? Not a chance. Once again, Matt Ryan's not a top-five prospect. I heard about the Chiefs sending the 64,000 people to his Pro Day. Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Sam Baker, OT, USC
Perhaps the team that benefits most from the DeAngelo Hall trade is Kansas City; without the Raiders drafting in front of them, there's a greater chance Sam Baker will still be on the board. If Baker's available, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Baker on the Chiefs' offensive front.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyvon Branch, CB/KR, Connecticut
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences. Law, another bust signing by inept general manager Carl Peterson, was recently cut.

105. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
The Chiefs look like they're going with Brodie Croyle in 2008, but I don't think they'll be able to resist Josh Johnson if he's available at this juncture. I've never been impressed with Croyle; he has yet to win a game as a starting quarterback in the NFL (0-6).

136. Kansas City Chiefs: Doug Legursky, C, Marshall
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

140. Kansas City Chiefs: D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.

[Direckshun]

I hate this mock. We passed on James Hardy in Round 2.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I hate this mock. We passed on James Hardy in Round 2.

I'd rather wait until the 4th and take Donnie Avery.

James Hardy is a bigger Bowe, whereas Avery would be that speed compliment to stretch the field.

I would jump on Baker in the seond round if he's there.

[Mecca]

I question if James Hardy can separate at all.....he's very big and not all that fast on the field. He's like a TE playing WR.

[Direckshun]

Walter takes a more conceptual route this time around, I'll let him explain it:

This is the Alternative Version of my 2008 NFL Mock Draft.

E-mailer Craig Pawlychyn recently gave me a great idea. He suggested that I create an alternate version of my 2008 NFL Mock Draft where none of my picks would be the same as my regular mock, while still keeping it realistic. Forum poster Bluto then suggested that I should factor in a few trades that I think could happen.

So, here's the alternate version of my mock. I've included my regular selection below each pick. Hope you like it.

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy State
2008 NFL Mock Draft (Real Version) Pick: (as of 4/7): DT Glenn Dorsey.

The Chiefs are in a tough spot if Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis are all off the board. If that happens, they can go in one of three directions: cornerback (Leodis McKelvin is a very slight reach); offensive tackle (Ryan Clady and Jeff Otah are major reaches); and running back (Darren McFadden is a dark-horse option because Herm Edwards has ruined Larry Johnson's career).

Out of those three choices, McKelvin seems to make the most sense. Patrick Surtain is old, and Ty Law was just cut. Cornerback is Kansas City's greatest need, save for offensive line.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
2008 NFL Mock Draft (Real Version) Pick: (as of 4/7): OT Sam Baker.

The Chiefs allowed 55 sacks in 2007 because Carl Peterson failed to address the offensive line despite seeing two future Hall of Famers retire. If Peterson doesn't fix the front this year, he never will.

Humorous e-mail from Guy Wilkes:

"This is what [the Chiefs] will do, regardless if [Jake] Long is available or not (which I don't think he will be)

Round 1: Glenn Dorsey

Round 2: Chad Henne

Round 3: Chris Ellis

Round 4: John Carlson

And when that happens, I will cease to be a Chiefs fan. LOL.

Does that sound like a typical Carl Peterson draft or what? Can you please explain to me how he still has a job in the NFL?!?"

Great e-mail; I can totally see that happening. And I can't explain how in the world Peterson still has a job. For the sake of Chiefs fans everywhere, I hope he either changes his draft strategy or resigns sometime soon.

[chiefscafan]

wow the walter guy said that about peterson that is awesome!!

[Direckshun]

Oy. I think this Draft is shit.

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Let me ask you a question. Say you have a top-five pick, and you're looking at three talented players to draft with your selection. One of the guys might be slightly higher rated than the other two, but he has had chronic knee problems the past two years. He didn't miss any time, but he's always been in pain. Upon examining the player at the hospital instead of watching him working out at the combine, one doctor says he has major concerns about the prospect's knees. A week later, there are reports of other injuries no one even knew about. So, do you take a major risk and pray that his body holds up for 8-10 seasons, or do you take the slightly lesser talent, knowing that lingering injuries definitely won't be a problem?

It looks like some team may gamble on Glenn Dorsey, especially after seeing him work out in the flesh at LSU's Pro Day. I, however, wouldn't take the risk in the first five selections. At No. 9, maybe. Not at No. 5.

However, we've seen Kansas City general manager Carl Peterson screw up draft after draft. In fact, from all of the Chiefs' drafts from 2000 to 2005, there are currently only six players on the roster (thanks to forum poster titan_qb_3 for pointing out that embarrassing stat). Of all the teams atop the 2008 Draft, the squad most likely to spend a top pick on a major injury risk (think Courtney Brown) is the Chiefs, which is actually pretty sad because the Raiders are slotted at No. 4.

Look, I hope I'm wrong about Dorsey. He was a dominant player at LSU and I hope he has a great NFL career. I just wouldn't recommend spending a top selection on a guy so brittle. But with Jake Long unavailable, it looks like that's what Kansas City is going to do.

But what about Matt Ryan? Not a chance. Once again, Matt Ryan's not a top-five prospect. I heard about the Chiefs sending the 64,000 people to his Pro Day. Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Duane Brown, OT, Virginia Tech
Perhaps the team that benefits most from the DeAngelo Hall trade is Kansas City; without the Raiders drafting in front of them, there's a greater chance a superior second-tier tackle will still be on the board. If Duane Brown's available, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Brown on the Chiefs' offensive front.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyvon Branch, CB/KR, Connecticut
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences. Law, another bust signing by inept general manager Carl Peterson, was recently cut.

105. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
The Chiefs look like they're going with Brodie Croyle in 2008, but I don't think they'll be able to resist Josh Johnson if he's available at this juncture. I've never been impressed with Croyle; he has yet to win a game as a starting quarterback in the NFL (0-6).

136. Kansas City Chiefs: John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

140. Kansas City Chiefs: Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.

[Direckshun]

New 5-rounder, no changes for the Chiefs -- although Baker slips to #47:

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Let me ask you a question. Say you have a top-five pick, and you're looking at three talented players to draft with your selection. One of the guys might be slightly higher rated than the other two, but he has had chronic knee problems the past two years. He didn't miss any time, but he's always been in pain. Upon examining the player at the hospital instead of watching him working out at the combine, one doctor says he has major concerns about the prospect's knees. A week later, there are reports of other injuries no one even knew about. So, do you take a major risk and pray that his body holds up for 8-10 seasons, or do you take the slightly lesser talent, knowing that lingering injuries definitely won't be a problem?

It looks like some team may gamble on Glenn Dorsey, especially after seeing him work out in the flesh at LSU's Pro Day. There are rumors of him going third to the Falcons, which is what will happen if Jake Long doesn't make it there. I, however, wouldn't take the risk on a 290-pound tackle with lower-body problems in the first five selections. At No. 9, maybe. Not at No. 5.

However, we've seen Kansas City general manager Carl Peterson screw up draft after draft. In fact, from all of the Chiefs' drafts from 2000 to 2005, there are currently only six players on the roster (thanks to forum poster titan_qb_3 for pointing out that embarrassing stat). Of all the teams atop the 2008 Draft, the squad most likely to spend a top pick on a major injury risk (think Courtney Brown) is the Chiefs, which is actually pretty sad because the Oakland ACLs are slotted at No. 4.

I hope I'm wrong about Dorsey. He was a dominant player at LSU and I hope he has a great NFL career. I just wouldn't recommend spending a top selection on a guy so brittle. But with Jake Long unavailable, it looks like that's what Kansas City is going to do.

But what about Matt Ryan? You never know what stunt Peterson is going to pull, but I don't think Matt Ryan's not a top-five prospect. I heard about the Chiefs sending the 64,000 people to his Pro Day. Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Duane Brown, OT, Virginia Tech
Perhaps the team that benefits most from the DeAngelo Hall trade is Kansas City; without the Raiders drafting in front of them, there's a greater chance a superior second-tier tackle will still be on the board. If Duane Brown's available, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Brown on the Chiefs' offensive front.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyvon Branch, CB/KR, Connecticut
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences. Law, another bust signing by inept general manager Carl Peterson, was recently cut.

105. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
The Chiefs look like they're going with Brodie Croyle in 2008, but I don't think they'll be able to resist Josh Johnson if he's available at this juncture. I've never been impressed with Croyle; he has yet to win a game as a starting quarterback in the NFL (0-6).

136. Kansas City Chiefs: John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

140. Kansas City Chiefs: Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.

[The Franchise]

I'd rather it fall like this.

1st - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU
2nd - Sam Baker - T - USC
3rd - Chevis Jackson - CB - LSU
4th - Eric Young - OG - Tenn.
5th - Marcus Monk - WR - Arkansas
5th - John Sullivan - C - Notre Dame