I think women going to college should carry guns - Page 5

Chiefmanwillcatch · 03-11-2008, 12:32 AM

The girl who was abducted from her dorm. The hitchhiker who wasn't a college girl but was on a walk by herself.

Now these two coed hatecrime murders.

Radar Chief · 03-11-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

So if you were in a situation in which you had your gun and someone came in and opened fire you would sit tight without responding?

So, the only way to intelligently defend yourself, others around you, is to pull your gat and empty your magazine at whatever’s in front of you?

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

My experience with guns is that I was walking to class one day on a CC campus 4-5 years ago when about 30-40 feet in front of me a guy comes up and shoots his ex girlfriend in the head and then kills himself. I don't need or want any further experiences with guns.

I’m sorry for your bad experience. It’s a hard thing to watch someone die, there is nothing glamorous or noble about it. It’s just dead.
Though, several times more people die due to automotive related incidents than die from gun related ones, but I assume you’re still driving.

Eleazar · 03-11-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

So if you were in a situation in which you had your gun and someone came in and opened fire you would sit tight without responding?

My experience with guns is that I was walking to class one day on a CC campus 4-5 years ago when about 30-40 feet in front of me a guy comes up and shoots his ex girlfriend in the head and then kills himself. I don't need or want any further experiences with guns.

I'm sorry you had to witness that, but it doesn't sound like the law entered into the equation at all for this guy. You could make a million laws against what he did and he still would have done it.

HonestChieffan · 03-11-2008, 10:13 AM

Never met an anti gunner who can be rational and discuss without becoming hysterical and blaming all the evils on the gun.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-11-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

So nobody can effectively wield a firearm unless they're a cop, right?

Your words, not mine.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-11-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I'm sorry you had to witness that, but it doesn't sound like the law entered into the equation at all for this guy. You could make a million laws against what he did and he still would have done it.

You're absolutely right, but I don't see how having an armed campus would have prevented it either.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-11-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

So, the only way to intelligently defend yourself, others around you, is to pull your gat and empty your magazine at whatever’s in front of you?

Would you or wouldn't you? If you were at VT or NIU, you were armed, and someone entered your classroom and started shooting would you fire back or not?

blueballs · 03-11-2008, 10:18 AM

someone will shoot her cans

Chiefnj2 · 03-11-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Maybe, got any statistical data to back that up?

Do guns and alcohol mix?

Frazod · 03-11-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Your words, not mine.

You're a complete moron.

I'm sorry you got all traumatized by witnessing a crime an obvious crime of passion. If the guy had slit her throat with a steak knife and then thrown himself in front of a train, would you want steak knives and trains made illegal?

Radar Chief · 03-11-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Would you or wouldn't you? If you were at VT or NIU, you were armed, and someone entered your classroom and started shooting would you fire back or not?

Far to situation dependent to give a conclusive yes or no.
If the situation presented itself so that I could blow psycho away without injuring someone else, yes. But a lot more goes into pulling a trigger than just the mechanical response of your index finger twitching and if you have no experience or training with firearms, I wouldn’t expect you to know that.

InChiefsHeaven · 03-11-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

So if you were in a situation in which you had your gun and someone came in and opened fire you would sit tight without responding?

My experience with guns is that I was walking to class one day on a CC campus 4-5 years ago when about 30-40 feet in front of me a guy comes up and shoots his ex girlfriend in the head and then kills himself. I don't need or want any further experiences with guns.

Fair enough, don't carry one.

I understand what you are saying about the idea that people could mis-fire and more chaos might reign, but dang dude...you are advocating people just being sheep and having no means of protection. Pretty hard to take out a shooter with a can of mace...

When my daughter goes to college some day, I will definitely get her the pepper spray etc, and if she felt comfortable, I'd suggest a firearm. I don't believe in being a lemming and I sure as hell don't want my daughter to be one. My son too, for that matter.

Where did the guy from VT get his guns anyway?

Eleazar · 03-11-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

You're absolutely right, but I don't see how having an armed campus would have prevented it either.

I don't think anything could prevent something like that. I don't think that is applicable here.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-11-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

You're a complete moron.

I'm sorry you got all traumatized by witnessing a crime an obvious crime of passion. If the guy had slit her throat with a steak knife and then thrown himself in front of a train, would you want steak knives and trains made illegal?

It was horrific, but I'm not traumatized by it. We can disagree, but I'm not a proponent of allowing guns in schools and on campus.

Radar Chief · 03-11-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Do guns and alcohol mix?

Same question in response.

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Maybe, got any statistical data to back that up?

I’m willing to read anything you come up with, I’m just asking how you come by that opinion as I hadn’t heard it before.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-11-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

When my daughter goes to college some day, I will definitely get her the pepper spray etc, and if she felt comfortable, I'd suggest a firearm.

Good luck, but the majority of college campuses restrict the presence of any firearms, whether you have a permit or not.

03-11-2008, 12:32 AM
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