Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page What QB do you like in this draft class?
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

View Poll Results: What QB do you like in this draft class?
Matt Ryan: 5th pick in the draft 35 36.46%
Brian Brohm: 1st rounder 15 15.63%
Joe Flacco: 2nd – 3rd rounder 19 19.79%
Chad Henne: 2nd – 3rd rounder 15 15.63%
Andre Woodson: 2nd – 3rd rounder 10 10.42%
John David Booty: 2nd – 3rd rounder 4 4.17%
Colt Brennan: Mid rounder 10 10.42%
Erik Ainge: Mid rounder 8 8.33%
Other 8 8.33%
I don’t like any of the QBs in this year’s class 13 13.54%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Page 5 of 9 1234 5 6789
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-12-2008, 09:39 AM  
suds79 suds79 is offline
MVP
 
suds79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Casino cash: $10005036
What QB do you like in this draft class?
In relation to where we’ll have to pick to get him.

Round projection via - http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com

Poll forthcoming...
Posts: 5,747
suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.suds79 would the whole thing.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 04:39 PM   #61
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $-1330300
Other than Mecca whom I have had this argument with already....

Any of you who have suggested that we take Brohm in the second or Woodson in Round 3, I would like to hear what you think their upside is, and what they have over Brody Croyle?

mmaddog
*******
Posts: 12,432
Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Mosbonian 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 04:43 PM   #62
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-712950
I'd like to know what Croyle has, he reminds me of the long line of guys with big arms who sucked as QB's, it doesn't help that he can't stay on the field to save his life...

Really strong arm, injury prone, other than that what's he got?
Posts: 115,380
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:01 PM   #63
Frankie Frankie is offline
Banned
 
Frankie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
I like Brodie better than any of the quarterbacks in this year's draft.
Me too.
Posts: 26,959
Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:05 PM   #64
Frankie Frankie is offline
Banned
 
Frankie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
Next years QB class is worse.......
How did this class look last year this time? Brohm and then nothing. Things change in a year.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
The Chiefs should be high on guys like Ryan because he doesn't need much coaching he's smart and technically sound already.
Are the Chiefs the team who can coach all those interceptions out of him?
Posts: 26,959
Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:06 PM   #65
Frankie Frankie is offline
Banned
 
Frankie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
Moreover, this stance directly contradicts your own belief in drafting BPA, because you are drafting a less worthy prospect based on a perceived future need or a lack of available prospects the next year (which is largely unknowable).
Good catch.
Posts: 26,959
Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:09 PM   #66
eazyb81 eazyb81 is offline
The Illuminati
 
eazyb81's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: the road less traveled
Casino cash: $9984900
Quote:
Originally Posted by nychief View Post
i disagree... super bowl appearance, solid, pro bowls... that is a top 5 pick. You can't expect a Hall of Famer with a top 5 pick, you expect an impact player. Hasselbeck is an impact player, if not flashy. JMO
Believe me, you're not going to get through to these guys. HOF or bust for the #5 pick. Just absurdly unrealistic, but what can you do.
Posts: 12,033
eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:09 PM   #67
Frankie Frankie is offline
Banned
 
Frankie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinChief View Post
I think either Flacco or Henne will end up being pretty damn good... I'm not sold on which one yet.. probably Flacco.
Flacco was never his team's captain. What does that say about his leadership? It tells me he might be another Grbac.
Posts: 26,959
Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:11 PM   #68
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is offline
The Insider
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $-1591248
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
I'd like to know what Croyle has, he reminds me of the long line of guys with big arms who sucked as QB's, it doesn't help that he can't stay on the field to save his life...

Really strong arm, injury prone, other than that what's he got?
What does Ryan got other than an NFL body?
Posts: 52,133
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:14 PM   #69
eazyb81 eazyb81 is offline
The Illuminati
 
eazyb81's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: the road less traveled
Casino cash: $9984900
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Matt Ryan is Brodie Croyle with a bigger frame. Those two are identical in about everything, its just the freaking year they are drafted that makes the difference.
Honestly, why the hell does the pro-Croyle crowd keeping saying this? !

The ONLY thing Croyle has on Ryan is pure arm strength, and he doesn't beat him by much. That's it. Period. Every single NFL analyst and expert would say Ryan beats Croyle in every other category. That is why Matt Ryan in a unanimous top five overall prospect and the #1 QB in this draft, while Brodie Croyle was a middle-round nobody in 2006 and no one holds him in high regard except the sheep on this board.

Seriously, some of you act like Brodie Croyle is your son or something; open your eyes, stop being biased, and realize that Croyle is a NFL backup at best.
Posts: 12,033
eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:22 PM   #70
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-712950
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
How did this class look last year this time? Brohm and then nothing. Things change in a year.


Are the Chiefs the team who can coach all those interceptions out of him?
You missed out on that whole Matt Ryan would have gone in the 1st last year when he was deciding if he was coming out or not last year eh?

And he threw picks because he put the ball up a ton of times to crappy receivers that team wouldn't have won a game without him....

People can say what they want about him but to me a guy who played in his situation is ready. Pro style offense, good size, was given freedom at the line to change plays, knows how to read defenses. Played for a coach that was an NFL coach, had to consistently put the ball in windows and rarely threw to wide open guys which prepares him much more for what he'll see in the NFL, guys rarely run free in the NFL.

I'm gonna do this one more time, since some people like to bring up stats.....

These are Brodie Croyle college stats...

2005 339 202 59.6 2,499 14 4 132.8
2004 66 44 66.7 534 6 0 164.6
2003 341 182 53.4 2,303 16 13 118.0
2002 123 60 48.8 1,046 5 5 125.5
Career 869 488 56.2 6,382 41 22 128.4

Matt Ryan is here...

2007 654 388 59.3 4,507 31 19 127.0
2006 426 262 61.5 2,939 15 10 126.4
2005 195 121 62.1 1,514 8 5 135.7
2004 71 35 49.3 350 2 3 91.5
Career 1346 806 59.9 9,310 56 37 126.2

If you don't like Ryan that's fine but give me good logical reasons not things like 'OMG Croyle is as good a prospect as him" because if you said that to NFL teams or any draft people they'd laugh you out of the room.

And stop comparing him to big armed QB's that flamed out, Croyle resembles them more than Ryan does...
Posts: 115,380
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:23 PM   #71
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is offline
The Insider
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $-1591248
Quote:
Originally Posted by eazyb81 View Post
Honestly, why the hell does the pro-Croyle crowd keeping saying this? !

The ONLY thing Croyle has on Ryan is pure arm strength, and he doesn't beat him by much. That's it. Period. Every single NFL analyst and expert would say Ryan beats Croyle in every other category. That is why Matt Ryan in a unanimous top five overall prospect and the #1 QB in this draft, while Brodie Croyle was a middle-round nobody in 2006 and no one holds him in high regard except the sheep on this board.

Seriously, some of you act like Brodie Croyle is your son or something; open your eyes, stop being biased, and realize that Croyle is a NFL backup at best.
I wanted to draft Croyle out of college. He has what it takes to be a starting quarterback in the league. Personally I think Ryan is overrated. He lead Boston College to 10 wins the most piss ant BCS conference, Brodie did it in the SEC and his only losts were to LSU and Auburn, arguabley 2 of the top 5 most talented college teams in the nation. They both had nearly identical compeltion percentage which is a better stat than yards and completions. Brodie had a better touchdown to interception ratio as well. Another thing is Ryan a better prospect than Vince Young, Matt Leinart, or Jay Cutler. Hell no. He would have been taken 4th behind them. Heck he is not even in the same class as Jamarcus Russell or Brady Quinn.

I will bet anybody that Croyle will have a better career than Ryan.
Posts: 52,133
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:24 PM   #72
Ebolapox Ebolapox is offline
remember, remember
 
Ebolapox's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: como
Casino cash: $-1780097
dennis dixon. I'd be a fan of him being a fifth or sixth round pick. he was the best QB in the ncaa for a long while last year.
Posts: 26,523
Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.Ebolapox is too fat/Omaha.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:26 PM   #73
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-712950
Ryan completed about as many passes as Croyle threw with no supporting cast.....people like Croyle cause he's a QB the Chiefs drafted nothing more. He is still the same thing he has always been a big armed guy that will never stay on the field...

I don't care if you love Croyle with everything in your being, if you really believe that man will ever play 16 games in a season or is remotely as good a prospect as Ryan you're so far out there.

Then you are valuing him for the same shit that people rip the Raiders for, his pure arm and nothing else. Because Ryan is better at EVERYTHING else. I'll take the guy who does everything without the huge arm, most of the best QB's right now don't have giant arms.
Posts: 115,380
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:30 PM   #74
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is offline
The Insider
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $-1591248
I could give rat's ass about his big arm. Croyle has what it takes IMO to be a winning NFL quarterback, is he a hall of fame type. No. But a Trent Green/Matt Hasselback type career. Yes.

And unless you are Brett Favre or Peyton Manning, I doubt you wil see that many quarterbacks last season after season every game.
Posts: 52,133
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:30 PM   #75
Frankie Frankie is offline
Banned
 
Frankie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by eazyb81 View Post
Honestly, why the hell does the pro-Croyle crowd keeping saying this? !

The ONLY thing Croyle has on Ryan is pure arm strength, and he doesn't beat him by much. That's it. Period. Every single NFL analyst and expert would say Ryan beats Croyle in every other category. That is why Matt Ryan in a unanimous top five overall prospect and the #1 QB in this draft, while Brodie Croyle was a middle-round nobody in 2006 and no one holds him in high regard except the sheep on this board.

Seriously, some of you act like Brodie Croyle is your son or something; open your eyes, stop being biased, and realize that Croyle is a NFL backup at best.
"The sheep on this board" are not saying Croyle is a sure thing. We are just saying "WE DON'T YET KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN CROYLE." And we have not seen him under any circumstance that's even near reasonable. We may or may not have a QBOTF. But there are positions we know we don't have anything. Seriously, I don't know why "the pigs on this board" can't comprehend that.
Posts: 26,959
Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 5 of 9 1234 5 6789

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:03 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.