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Old 10-15-2008, 03:07 PM  
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Tony G speaks to the media

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Tony G. Speaks About No-Trade

October 15, 2008 - Bob Gretz |

From the Truman Sports Complex
Tony Gonzalez was back in familiar surroundings on Wednesday, practicing with the Chiefs in their indoor facility and then holding court for the media horde after practice.

Gonzalez spoke to his teammates at their morning meeting, with no coaches in the room at his request.

“I told them the situation, how it occurred what my thought process was behind everything, why I wanted to go and how I thought maybe it could help the team,” Gonzalez said of what he told his teammates. “But now it’s over. So, it’s done with. I’m a Chief now for these next 11 games. I’m concentrating on going out there and trying to be the best player that I can be and help this team win.
“I wanted to make sure; I think most of them know me, the guys that have been around for awhile know what I’m all about. But I wanted to make sure those young guys know that this is about winning football games, about being the best football player you can be. No matter what the situation is, whether you are frustrated or you are extremely happy, you have to go out there and bust your tail every day and try to get better and help this team win.”

He also had plenty to say on various subjects:

-On what the day was like on Tuesday waiting for a trade to be made: “It was a high stress situation. It was a sad situation. It was confusing … it was pretty stressful for myself and my family. I felt this was it. What was told to me, a deal was going to get struck if a team was willing to give up what I thought was necessary for me to get out of here. When it came and when I was somewhat shocked that it didn’t go down.”

-On the status of his relationship now with Carl Peterson: “Who knows. I’m disappointed. In the end it doesn’t matter what our relationship is any more. I’m a Chief and I’m here and I’m here to play.”

-On what was offered for him and whether it sounded like a reasonable deal: “From what I understood, a third round was offered and it didn’t go down that way. If you are going to trade me, that’s what you can expect to get. You are not going to get anything higher. I’m 32 years old. A second-round pick you are not going to get that. Everybody knows that … if they were serious about trading me, I think they would have taken that third-round pick. But that’s just my opinion.”

-On whether the Chiefs were serious about trading him: “A part of me thinks maybe they were just trying to appease me. I don’t know if they were serious. In the end, the way it all went down from what I understand, it didn’t sound like it … if they weren’t serious from the beginning, I wish they would have told me that, because in that case none of this would have even gone down. Just sit there and tell me it’s not going to happen this year.”

-Did he request a trade before the season: “No … I wanted to see how it worked out. Obviously Brodie (Croyle) going down, I think that hurt us definitely. We’ve been snakebit this year too. At that point (before the season) I didn’t see the need too.”

-On what it says about the Chiefs that he wanted out: “I’m not saying anything bad about these guys. I think this team is going in the right direction, I really feel that way. They’ve got some great young talent on this team and they are rebuilding, there’s no doubt about that. These g uys are going to be good in thef uture and we can be good this year, but it takes guys about three years to really get in that groove. That’s how long it took me, so knowing that and knowing I’m not going to be around here in three years … that’s the reason I said if it can help the Chiefs with them going out there and getting a pretty good draft choice for me, and it would help me going out there and playing for a contender this year, that was the whole reason behind it. It’s not that I don’t believe in Herm, or I don’t believe in Carl. They’ve done a good job in my opinion. It’s getting down to the end of the road for me and I had to take that shot.”

-On the ceremony planned to honor him before this Sunday’s game: “That’s probably something I would like to wait until the end of the year. It’s up to them … I think it would be akward in light of what went down this week. Let’s just wait on it. We’ll see what they want to do.”

-Will he ask to be traded again after this season is over: “We’ll see. I can’t answer that question honestly.”
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:06 PM   #61
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I value an elite DE right behind a franchise QB and LT.
And I think we know now that Herb Taylor would've been a suitable successor for McIntosh.
Besides... It's not like there were no other Left Tackles drafted after the First Round.



I'm guessing the 15.5 sacks that he amassed with a less talented supporting cast last year?
Oh, that's right. LAST year.

BEFORE he got PAID.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:08 PM   #62
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Oh, that's right. LAST year.

BEFORE he got PAID.
You're right.
I made the mistake of thinking he had produced BEFORE last year.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:27 PM   #63
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Oh, that's right. LAST year.

BEFORE he got PAID.

He hasn't gotten paid yet. The Vikings built in safeguards should strike 3 occur. He only received about 15 mil guaranteed at the start. KC could have easily fit him into the cap.

They didn't and now they will have to burn an early draft pick to replace him.
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You're right.
I made the mistake of thinking he had produced BEFORE last year.
Does he get a special award for last year? The year before?

He got paid, and now his production has fallen off, though his surroundings suggest his production should be increasing.

Sounds like a guy I'd like to give $70M

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Old 10-15-2008, 04:31 PM   #65
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He hasn't gotten paid yet. The Vikings built in safeguards should strike 3 occur. He only received about 15 mil guaranteed at the start. KC could have easily fit him into the cap.

They didn't and now they will have to burn an early draft pick to replace him.
Or, they could do the smart thing, and use picks to improve that HORRIBLE offensive line we have.

Why is replacing Jared Allen a goddamn necessity when this team has holes EVERYWHERE?
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:34 PM   #66
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I'm not a KC fan but as an NFL fan I think it's a bummer that Peterson didn't make the trade happen. Would've been cool for TG to get a chance to go to the playoffs with a different team this year. Plus, there's already some good young talent on the Chiefs, a 3rd could've netted another future starter a key position such as OL.

Edited: Poster above me made the same point about o-line with that pick, good call.
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He hasn't gotten paid yet. The Vikings built in safeguards should strike 3 occur. He only received about 15 mil guaranteed at the start. KC could have easily fit him into the cap.

They didn't and now they will have to burn an early draft pick to replace him.
Do those safeguards protect the Vikings from him underperforming?

Didn't think so.

If he stays clean he's going to be paid better than anyone at his position, even when he turns in a 7-8 sack season.

That's only $8.75 - $10M per sack...

What a bargain.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:37 PM   #68
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Or, they could do the smart thing, and use picks to improve that HORRIBLE offensive line we have.

Why is replacing Jared Allen a goddamn necessity when this team has holes EVERYWHERE?
I agree 100 percent. We need to revamp the line first thing IMO(excluding albert and possibly herb) and find a replacement for Waters eventually. Maybe richardson steps up so we wont need to draft someone there, who knows. Jury is still out on niswanger i think
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I agree 100 percent. We need to revamp the line first thing IMO(excluding albert and possibly herb) and find a replacement for Waters eventually. Maybe richardson steps up so we wont need to draft someone there, who knows. Jury is still out on niswanger i think
Good post, n00b, and great call on Waters.

Hopefully the next regime won't wait until it's too late to replace him, like Vermeil did with the majority of his team.

They need to draft a guy THIS year, IMO, and plan on him being the guy in a few years (or less) when Waters hangs up his cleats.
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Carl said it would take a 3rd to get the deal done before TG even opened his mouth. Carl set the price. Now the Chiefs are forked and at the end of the season Tony will possibly retire or request a trade, so teams interested in TG offer much less.
So tony is innocent in all of this. Got it.
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So tony is innocent in all of this. Got it.
Innocent? No.

I'm not even sure what role innocence would play in this situation.

Excellent at his job? Yes. He's the only one involved who could claim that.
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Poor Tony...he could have gone to the Bills but that was just too far away!
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Innocent? No.

I'm not even sure what role innocence would play in this situation.

Excellent at his job? Yes. He's the only one involved who could claim that.
QFT

I love Tony and what he has done for the Chiefs. He deserves a shot at his SB ring. However, he has ticked me off these last two years because of the me first attitude.
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Do those safeguards protect the Vikings from him underperforming?

Didn't think so.

If he stays clean he's going to be paid better than anyone at his position, even when he turns in a 7-8 sack season.

That's only $8.75 - $10M per sack...

What a bargain.
He was an established player on the Chiefs. But hey, if you don't think the Chiefs need a pass rusher I'm sure you are correct. Hali and McBride will be the second coming of Strahan and Osi in the 2nd half of the season.
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He was an established player on the Chiefs. But hey, if you don't think the Chiefs need a pass rusher I'm sure you are correct. Hali and McBride will be the second coming of Strahan and Osi in the 2nd half of the season.
Way to not answer the question, and completely derail the conversation.

You're quickly becoming the King of the False Dilemma, with a nice side of Strawman.
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