Chiefs 810 vs 610 on Thigy - Page 5

kcxiv · 12-29-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Don't let the stupidity of the Chiefs fool you here, fixing a defense is much easier than finding a top QB and building an offense especially when you are at the square 1 point the Chiefs are.

Regardless, it still hasnt been fixed in almost 9 years. I thought as did many others, if nothing else Herm was going to at least bring a solid defense to th is team. Hasnt happened.

I think we have to fix that defense. I dont even care if its through free agency. I thinkwe have enough young guys that we can add 2 good free agents to help. Are whole starting 2ndary is drafted. Our whole Dline has been drafted. 1 of our linebackers has been drafted. A few vets wouldnt be bad, but we also need better coaching.

The_Doctor10 · 12-29-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The entire premise of the spread is to try to use a scheme to even out talent when you are less talented because in college usually even the best teams don't go 4 and 5 deep at CB, in the NFL it let the Chiefs not get blown out but didn't net them any great results.

It didn't net them any results because they had an awful defence! Unless you want Tony G lining up at LB and D-bowe playing safety with Albert clogging up the middle, allowing dorsey to move over to left end, the blame for a lack of wins falls squarely on the defence's shoulders.

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

It didn't net them any results because they had an awful defence! Unless you want Tony G lining up at LB and D-bowe playing safety with Albert clogging up the middle, allowing dorsey to move over to left end, the blame for a lack of wins falls squarely on the defence's shoulders.

Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.

The_Doctor10 · 12-29-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.

So fix the aspect of the team that was the most god-awful. Look, if you have a car with two flat tires and a windshield wiper motor that doesn't work, what are you going to fix first? The flat tires, because otherwise your car's a useless hunk of metal. the Chiefs defence turns this team into a useless hunk of metal, not Tyler Thigpen. Who, by the way, is a rookie in almost every respect except he's got one year of practice roster time. Look at Eli's first half-season as a starter. Hell, look at his career until last year. He was a slower, stronger-armed Thigpen. Now he's a super bowl champ. And don't tell me 'At least he was accurate' because prior to the playoffs last season he struggled to get his completion % above 60.

Hydrae · 12-29-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.

There you go. My biggest concern at this point is not the players on the team, it is the losing mentality. I worry these guys no longer know how to win a ball game. This is also the number 1 reason why everyone from Herm on down needs to go.

**SAUTO** · 12-29-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.

explanation? maybe in the weeks we scored less the other team's defense was better than the weeks we scored more.
You keep acting like the offense scored less BECAUSE the defense gave up less points, IMO thats not the case, those defenses were better that the others LOOK IT UP

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

explanation? maybe in the weeks we scored less the other team's defense was better than the weeks we scored more.
You keep acting like the offense scored less BECAUSE the defense gave up less points, IMO thats not the case, those defenses were better that the others LOOK IT UP

Cincy does not have a better defense than Miami does especially when half of their starters didn't play.

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 05:16 PM

I consider QB the most important thing on the team building without that is like building a car with no engine.

The_Doctor10 · 12-29-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I consider QB the most important thing on the team building without that is like building a car with no engine.

You act like Thigpen is somehow Bruce Gradkowski. He's gone through his rookie growing pains this year; you really think stafford or Bradford is going to step in, run a power-I offence and do even half as good as Thigpen?

HC_Chief · 12-29-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

You act like Thigpen is somehow Bruce Gradkowski. He's gone through his rookie growing pains this year; you really think stafford or Bradford is going to step in, run a power-I offence and do even half as good as Thigpen?

There is the very real possibility they could do much better.

**petegz28** · 12-29-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

There is the very real possibility they could do much better.

There is also the more probable in that they will stink it up their first few years like most QB's. I remember Eli not doing oh so well his first couple years. Leinart is not lighting it up at all. Flaco is benefiting from a running game and solid defense, which Thigy could do just as well. Ryan is about the only QB to come out and do good his 1st year.

smittysbar · 12-29-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

There is also the more probable in that they will stink it up their first few years like most QB's. I remember Eli not doing oh so well his first couple years. Leinart is not lighting it up at all. Flaco is benefiting from a running game and solid defense, which Thigy could do just as well. Ryan is about the only QB to come out and do good his 1st year.

All the QB's you mention would out play thiggy in the spread.....just sayin

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

There is also the more probable in that they will stink it up their first few years like most QB's. I remember Eli not doing oh so well his first couple years. Leinart is not lighting it up at all. Flaco is benefiting from a running game and solid defense, which Thigy could do just as well. Ryan is about the only QB to come out and do good his 1st year.

And is next year what we are playing for here?

**SAUTO** · 12-29-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

There is the very real possibility they could do much better.

AND there is the very real possibility they could do worse

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 05:19 PM

Well that's what they get for keeping Gunther around.

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