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Old 12-29-2008, 05:52 PM  
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Mort just reported Cowher willing to talk to Jets
On Sportscenter...

Interesting he is willing to talk to them and not the Browns. Maybe total control isn't all that important to him since I would assume he could have had that with the Browns, and probably not the Jets
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:09 AM   #61
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Given that I view the Titans, Panthers, and Giants as 3 of the 4 favorites, I'm pretty sure my point about defense/strong running game being the new thing will be validated.
The Titans and Panthers have already lost Super Bowls using that exact same philosophy.

In case you don't have the Sunday Ticket or don't live in NY, the Giants are FAR from a Marty-type team.

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Old 12-30-2008, 01:15 AM   #62
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The Titans and Panthers have already lost Super Bowls using that exact same philosophy.

In case you don't have the Sunday Ticket or don't live in NY, the Giants are FAR from a Marty-type team.

JFC.
I never said the Giants were a Marty team. But neither is Cowher. I don't understand why a coach who likes to run the ball is considered to be like Marty.

Coughlin LOVES to run the ball. I've seen a few Giants games. I know they win on outstanding defense. I know that they love, love, LOVE to run the ball, and that Eli serves more as a game manager, but that the run game is king in New York. For crying out loud, they had TWO 1,000 yard rushers!

The Giants don't win because of a pass-happy offense. They win because of "Earth, Wind, and Fire (Jacobs, Ward, Bradshaw). Anyone who believes otherwise should pay attention to how they struggled when the Giants lost Jacobs this season.
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:19 AM   #63
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Keep moving those goalposts.

Good head coaches don't lose playoff games at home.

Don Shula lost five in THIRTY-THREE YEARS.
don't get enamored with this stat........... it's really not that telling
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:20 AM   #64
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The Titans and Panthers have already lost Super Bowls using that exact same philosophy.

In case you don't have the Sunday Ticket or don't live in NY, the Giants are FAR from a Marty-type team.

JFC.
And by the way... if you really hold true to that argument, then if by some miracle the Chiefs could get Jeff Fisher or John Fox, you would nix that in a heartbeat.
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:21 AM   #65
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The Titans and Panthers have already lost Super Bowls using that exact same philosophy.

In case you don't have the Sunday Ticket or don't live in NY, the Giants are FAR from a Marty-type team.

JFC.
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:21 AM   #66
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Keep moving those goalposts.

Good head coaches don't lose playoff games at home.

Don Shula lost five in THIRTY-THREE YEARS.
So he's a bad coach because he loses playoff games at home, but he gets no credit for winning playoff games on the road?
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Bullshit and Bullshit
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The Giants don't win because of a pass-happy offense.
The Giants won't win the Super Bowl this year without Plaxico Burress.
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So he's a bad coach because he loses playoff games at home, but he gets no credit for winning playoff games on the road?
He's not a "bad" head coach.

He's just not good enough.

Furthermore, I don't even know if he has the desire to win another Super Bowl. There was a lot of that talk going around the year after Pitt won.
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:23 AM   #70
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And by the way... if you really hold true to that argument, then if by some miracle the Chiefs could get Jeff Fisher or John Fox, you would nix that in a heartbeat.
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Jeff Fisher has been a head coach for 13 years. His teams have been in the playoffs 5 times.

John Fox's head was on the chopping block before the season started.

Are these the guys you want?

****in' A.

Do you live in Carl Peterson's apartment? Or are you just his errand boy?
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Bullshit and Bullshit
So you think Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer won those Super Bowls, as opposed to Tampa D/Pittman and Alstott the Ravens D/Jamal Lewis and Priest?
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Me? I've watched a piece-of-shit defense for 10 years and I've had about enough. If Cowher comes in and brings a top 5 defense, I will literally do a tap dance. It's going to be ridiculously embarrassing, but I'll do it.
Cowher had top 5 defenses and running games for most of his tenure in Pittsburgh, yet didn't finally win a Super Bowl until he had a legit QB and passing game.
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Cowher had top 5 defenses and running games for most of his tenure in Pittsburgh, yet didn't finally win a Super Bowl until he had a legit QB and passing game.
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Cowher had top 5 defenses and running games for most of his tenure in Pittsburgh, yet didn't finally win a Super Bowl until he had a legit QB and passing game.
Who played for a team that loved to run the ball and played outstanding defense. Big Ben did not win that Super Bowl, he managed that game well enough for his defense/running game to win.

I know you need solid QB play. But there is a lot of recent history that suggests that teams that love to run the ball do just fine in the Super Bowl. It just so happens that the three glaring exceptions, the Colts, Patriots, and Rams, had three QBs who were beyond franchise QBs.

If you are confident that you'll find a QB as good as Peyton or Brady, by all means, go for a team that would rather pass the ball. But the reality is, most Super Bowl teams are getting solid QBs and surrounding them with an outstanding running game and defense.
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