Chiefs Sanchez will throw at combine. - Page 5

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-20-2009, 08:33 AM

Okay, I have been critical of this kid from the start. I really want a franchise QB, but I don't want the Chiefs to reach. There are a lot of QB's that go high under the theory that 'this may be our 'best' chance to get a franchise QB'.

But, with ALL things, I try to be fair minded. I love the fact that this kid is willing to do the full workout at the combine. That shows confidence. That shows courage.

Now, it may also show a lack of level headed decision making. And, at the QB position, you want a guy that doesn't force things. But, I must admit, that I like this move.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

How about this: trade our #3 overall down to Philly for one of their #1s and Donavan McNabb.

Or, trade down for NE's #1 + Cassel!

IT CAN WORK!

That would be sooooooooo Car...I mean "cool"!

**Kyle DeLexus** · 02-20-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

No need to worry about Sanchez. According to another CP thread today, the Lions will pass on a QB, so now we're set to get Stafford.

It's a...

DONE DEAL!

I hope like hell your right, but if not Sanchez is a solid prospect to take at #3. Really there is no one else to take at that spot and if we pass on Sanchez and can't find a team to trade down with, there's not much to do in that position.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 02-20-2009, 12:42 PM

Didn't he miss three weeks of practice? Not sure but he didn't miss a game.

Frankly, the more I learn about the guy... I am beginning to think he is a head case.

I initially liked the idea that he was going to throw at the combine.

Now, I think he may be a little too arrogant.

I am sure you know about his arrest, I think in his redshirt Sophomore year because the girl said no and he wasn't hearing it. He got Kobe'd, she figured she could get some money out of him if this is the case.

Now, he has one good year in college and Pete Carroll tells him he should stay in school and he's not hearing it. He's not hearing it because everyone else is saying your going to go very high. Just because Carroll said to stay doesn't mean anything. He could have stayed and gotten insurance like lionheart but why? He's going high first round and can learn in the NFL

Just have to wonder if he thinks he knows better than everyone else, and has this self titled attitude. Pretty sure he's doing whats best for him and his family, you don't know whats best for them.

Don't need that on this team. Would love his attitude and leadership on our team. It's not like everyone is saying he's a prick like Leaf.

I was really hoping to find out more about him and get sold on him.... nothing so far. I'm sold on him being the 2nd best QB and if Matthew is off the board, I'd love to have him as a member of the KC Chiefs.

BigCatDaddy · 02-20-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Someone quickly point out what "dominant" WR he was throwing to...

Somone quickly point out what "dominant" WR Bradford threw to.... Someone quicky point out where those 4 SR Olineman are going to get drafted if they do.......

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-20-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Somone quickly point out what "dominant" WR Bradford threw to.... Someone quicky point out where those 4 SR Olineman are going to get drafted if they do.......

Robinson and Loadholt will both go in the 2nd to 3rd round.

Iglesias is going to go by round 3.

Jermaine Gresham will probably be a top 15-20 pick next year, and is far and away better than any other tight end in this draft.

Their right tackle this year is a better prospect than Loadholt.

Murray and Brown were both dynamic running backs who will stick in the NFL.

Other than that, nothing.

BigCatDaddy · 02-20-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Robinson and Loadholt will both go in the 2nd to 3rd round.

Iglesias is going to go by round 3.

Jermaine Gresham will probably be a top 15-20 pick next year, and is far and away better than any other tight end in this draft.

Their right tackle this year is a better prospect than Loadholt.

Murray and Brown were both dynamic running backs who will stick in the NFL.

Other than that, nothing.

Robisnon will go in the 2nd. Loadholt will not be gone anywhere near round 3. So 1 out 4 will be drafted in the 2nd round. Not exactly elite talent.

Iglesias won't be gone by round 3. He is a 4th or 5th round prospect at best and is waayy to slow.

They have solid backs, but so does USC. Murray may get drafted in the first few rounds, but not Brown.

Gresham is good, but not better then Pettigrew.

So we have probaby a 2nd, and 2 5th round picks this year coming from this loaded offense that carries Brafdord. Right..... Freaking MU will have more players taken in the top 2 rounds off their offense this year then OU will!!!! So how elite is that?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-20-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Robisnon will go in the 2nd. Loadholt will not be gone anywhere near round 3. So 1 out 4 will be drafted in the 2nd round. Not exactly elite talent.

Iglesias won't be gone by round 3. He is a 4th or 5th round prospect at best and is waayy to slow.

They have solid backs, but so does USC. Murray may get drafted in the first few rounds, but not Brown.

Gresham is good, but not better then Pettigrew.

So we have probaby a 2nd, and 2 5th round picks this year coming from this loaded offense that carries Brafdord. Right..... Freaking MU will have more players taken in the top 2 rounds off their offense this year then OU will!!!! So how elite is that?

Walter Football:

Murray 1st/2nd round
Brown 3rd Rown
Trent Williams: Top 20 Pick
Jermaine Gresham would definitely be the #1 TE on anyone other than Mike Mayock's board. He's such a better receiver that it's not funny. He's taller, nearly as thick, and much faster.

This year:

Robinson: 2nd-3rd
Loadholt: 2nd-3rd
Iglesias: 2nd-3rd.

All from Scott Wright.

So, if 7 of the 11 people that Bradford plays with (counting 2 RBs) being projected to go in the first 3 rounds doesn't account for elite talent, I don't know what the **** does.

You're completely full of shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-20-2009, 01:08 PM

I do love this argumentative style though.

"Those guys from Oklahoma won't go there."

Please provide proof.

"Because I said so!!"

Chief Roundup · 02-20-2009, 01:09 PM

This is good for us if he looks for real then there will be less complaint about the pick. If he doesn't look for real then we will know to go another direction.

**DeezNutz** · 02-20-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Walter Football:

Murray 1st/2nd round
Brown 3rd Rown
Trent Williams: Top 20 Pick
Jermaine Gresham would definitely be the #1 TE on anyone other than Mike Mayock's board. He's such a better receiver that it's not funny. He's taller, nearly as thick, and much faster.

This year:

Robinson: 2nd-3rd
Loadholt: 2nd-3rd
Iglesias: 2nd-3rd.

All from Scott Wright.

So, unless 7 of the 11 people that Bradford plays with (counting 2 RBs) being projected to go in the first 3 rounds doesn't account for elite talent, I don't know what the **** does.

You're completely full of shit.

I still don't think there was much talent around Bradford, and the differences in offensive systems between OU and USC don't matter.

Next year is going to be an epic quarterback class. Visions of '83.

1883, however. Like the Brooklyn Bridge stampede. I still can't believe that mother****er held.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-20-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I still don't think there was much talent around Bradford, and the differences in offensive systems between OU and USC don't matter.

Next year is going to be an epic quarterback class. Visions of '83.

1883, however. Like the Brooklyn Bridge stampede.

Chiefnj2 · 02-20-2009, 01:11 PM

Bradford had all world talent around him. He didn't face any pressure on a single drop back and his receivers never had a defender within 5 yards of them. Sanchez on the other hand had the weight of the world on his shoulder - literally. They made him walk to the stadium up hill both ways in 120 degree heat before games. They wouldn't give him water. Each game was like an Indian vision quest for Sanchez, but instead of having to deal with wolves and bears and small pox infested blankets he had to deal with a bad OL, reeruned WRs, no running game and a crazy emotional head coach. It's a wonder the kid didn't break.

BigCatDaddy · 02-20-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Walter Football:

Murray 1st/2nd round
Brown 3rd Rown
Trent Williams: Top 20 Pick
Jermaine Gresham would definitely be the #1 TE on anyone other than Mike Mayock's board. He's such a better receiver that it's not funny. He's taller, nearly as thick, and much faster.

This year:

Robinson: 2nd-3rd
Loadholt: 2nd-3rd
Iglesias: 2nd-3rd.

All from Scott Wright.

So, if 7 of the 11 people that Bradford plays with (counting 2 RBs) being projected to go in the first 3 rounds doesn't account for elite talent, I don't know what the **** does.

You're completely full of shit.

I'll bookmark this and after the draft and we will see where Iglesias and Loadholt get drafted. If they have 3 guys in the top 3 rounds I'll man up. But some teams have 2-3 guys off an offense drafted in the first round! That's elite.

BigCatDaddy · 02-20-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Bradford had all world talent around him. He didn't face any pressure on a single drop back and his receivers never had a defender within 5 yards of them. Sanchez on the other hand had the weight of the world on his shoulder - literally. They made him walk to the stadium up hill both ways in 120 degree heat before games. They wouldn't give him water. Each game was like an Indian vision quest for Sanchez, but instead of having to deal with wolves and bears and small pox infested blankets he had to deal with a bad OL, reeruned WRs, no running game and a crazy emotional head coach. It's a wonder the kid didn't break.

tomahawk kid · 02-20-2009, 01:32 PM

Is their anything to the smoke being floated that Detriots going OL?

If so - I'd guess Stafford falls to #3.....

02-20-2009, 08:33 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Sanchez will throw at combine. Okay, I have been critical of this kid from the start. I really want a franchise QB, but I don't want the Chiefs to reach. There are a lot of QB's that go high under the theory that 'this may be our 'best' chance to get a franchise QB'. But, with ALL things, I try to be fair minded. I love the fact that this kid is willing to do the full workout at the combine. That shows confidence. That shows courage. Now, it may also show a lack of level headed decision making. And, at the QB position, you want a guy that doesn't force things. But, I must admit, that I like this move.
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Kyle DeLexus Opie and Anthony XM 105 Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10002400	Didn't he miss three weeks of practice? Not sure but he didn't miss a game. Frankly, the more I learn about the guy... I am beginning to think he is a head case. I initially liked the idea that he was going to throw at the combine. Now, I think he may be a little too arrogant. I am sure you know about his arrest, I think in his redshirt Sophomore year because the girl said no and he wasn't hearing it. He got Kobe'd, she figured she could get some money out of him if this is the case. Now, he has one good year in college and Pete Carroll tells him he should stay in school and he's not hearing it. He's not hearing it because everyone else is saying your going to go very high. Just because Carroll said to stay doesn't mean anything. He could have stayed and gotten insurance like lionheart but why? He's going high first round and can learn in the NFL Just have to wonder if he thinks he knows better than everyone else, and has this self titled attitude. Pretty sure he's doing whats best for him and his family, you don't know whats best for them. Don't need that on this team. Would love his attitude and leadership on our team. It's not like everyone is saying he's a prick like Leaf. I was really hoping to find out more about him and get sold on him.... nothing so far. I'm sold on him being the 2nd best QB and if Matthew is off the board, I'd love to have him as a member of the KC Chiefs.
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02-20-2009, 01:08 PM	#68
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	I do love this argumentative style though. "Those guys from Oklahoma won't go there." Please provide proof. "Because I said so!!" __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Bradford had all world talent around him. He didn't face any pressure on a single drop back and his receivers never had a defender within 5 yards of them. Sanchez on the other hand had the weight of the world on his shoulder - literally. They made him walk to the stadium up hill both ways in 120 degree heat before games. They wouldn't give him water. Each game was like an Indian vision quest for Sanchez, but instead of having to deal with wolves and bears and small pox infested blankets he had to deal with a bad OL, reeruned WRs, no running game and a crazy emotional head coach. It's a wonder the kid didn't break. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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