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**Tribal Warfare** · 02-23-2009, 02:48 PM

Readers Speak: It’s Aaron Curry or Trade Down
February 23, 2009 - Bob Gretz |

Thanks to all of you who responded over the weekend to our first fan poll on what the Chiefs should do with the third pick of the first round in the NFL Draft two months from now.

As we noted, it’s way too early with free agency not even begun yet, but we wanted to set the bar and see what folks were thinking before we go through 60 days of paralysis of analysis on the draft.

Right now, the feelings of a majority of folks is apparent: if the Chiefs keep the choice, they should select Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry (right). But if they can, just as many of you believe the Chiefs should trade down in the first round, picking up extra picks.

After sifting through nearly 100 responses, here are the totals:

Linebacker Aaron Curry: 27
Trade Down: 26
Quarterback Matt Stafford: 6.5
Offensive Tackle Eugene Monroe: 4
Wide receiver Michael Crabtree: 3.5
Quarterback Mark Sanchez: 3.5
Nose tackle B.J. Raji: 2.5
Any offensive lineman: 2
Wide receiver Jeremy Maclin: 1
Defensive end Brian Orapko: 1
Nose tackle: 1
We will revisit this subject a month from now. Until then, keep talking the draft, personnel, free agency and the Chiefs.

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 06:53 PM

If it's say at guard it's not...

A top level player at a position like QB even if he's not a Hofer is more valuable than a HOF guard is.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-23-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You know that's a good question...he was drafted much lower than that in reality...

You could really argue that for how good he was, he wasn't good enough to win them anything other than 1 time where the league was down and Gruden finally got their offense to produce.

He was a stud, an absolute stud on a defense that typically shut down the NFL for 3-4 years.

It wasn't his fault he was on a team with Trent Dilfer.

You also have to look at the draft class he was taken in. This draft class does not have a lot of beef at the top.

**SAUTO** · 02-23-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

an OLB in a cover 2, no matter how good isn't worth a 3...but any hall of fame player, in retrospect, seems worth it....

i mean, you'd never draft a TE with #3, but if you knew it was Tony, the best TE ever, you'd be reasonable in saying yeah...

but not having hindsight, it is a bit hard to swallow the idea that all we'll get for a 2 win season is a OLB, when we still need a QB....

agreed

philfree · 02-23-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Derrick Brooks is going to the HOF so do you understand how absurd what you just said sounds?

Was intended for me? A player could have as much talent as any player ever and not become a hall of famer. Curry could be more talented then Brooks but not have as good as career. And when I said more I was talking about skill set. So I see nothing absurd about my post.

PhilFree

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-23-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Every report on him says he can play inside or outside in a 4-3 or 3-4.

There's nothing about him that you can point to right now to say definitively that he can't change games by rushing the passer, but he just hasn't had the opportunity to do so because his college scheme rarely allowed him to blitz.

With his physical makeup and instincts, there's no reason to think he is incapable of doing so.

He has shorter arms than any other defensive line prospect, save for Will Davis. They are above average compared to the LBs.

He has no pass rushing moves. He's admitted it.

I'm sorry, the guy is Derrick Brooks. He'll be a great SAM.

With that being said, if you gave me the choice between the best SAM of all time, and two QBs who show plenty of promise to become franchise signal callers, I'm taking the QB, especially when you consider the awful class of QBs after these two AND next year, and how good next year's defensive class is.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-23-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He was a stud, an absolute stud on a defense that typically shut down the NFL for 3-4 years.

It wasn't his fault he was on a team with Trent Dilfer.

You also have to look at the draft class he was taken in. This draft class does not have a lot of beef at the top.

An absolute stud on a defensive with one of the greatest DTs of all time, John Lynch, Ronde Barber, Booger McFarland, and Simeon Rice.

Basileus777 · 02-23-2009, 08:43 PM

Derrick Brooks played his entire career at WILL, and I doubt anyone would waste Curry at SAM. SAM is generally considered the least valuable of LB positions.

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Derrick Brooks played his entire career at WILL, and I doubt anyone would waste Curry at SAM. SAM is generally considered the least valuable of LB positions.

That's the one he's been playing for 4 years...

Basileus777 · 02-23-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's the one he's been playing for 4 years...

That doesn't really mean much. I don't think a team is going to spend a 10 pick on a linebacker and have him play the strongside.

melbar · 02-23-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Great coverage backer, but won't change games like LT or Derrick did.It's not a part of his skill set.

In a different way. 3 ints returned for TD's and 16 Tackles Behind the line. He also hits like a truck something we are sorely missing. Still #3 behind QB's for me, but This guy is the #1 or #2 football player in the country, AND he looked great at the combine. How often do we see one or the other?

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 09:56 PM

Actually he's not the 1 or 2 football player in the country just alot of the guys ahead of him either didn't or couldn't declare.

jspchief · 02-23-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You know that's a good question...he was drafted much lower than that in reality...

You could really argue that for how good he was, he wasn't good enough to win them anything other than 1 time where the league was down and Gruden finally got their offense to produce.

So he was more valuable than Dan Marino? I mean, if we're going to make ridiculous leaps in logic, let's do it right.

BigChiefFan · 02-23-2009, 10:31 PM

I think Curry is the perfect MLBer in the Cover Two-damn, the irony.

Hammock Parties · 02-24-2009, 01:12 AM

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Mecca · 02-24-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

So he was more valuable than Dan Marino? I mean, if we're going to make ridiculous leaps in logic, let's do it right.

I don't really think pointing out how traditional LB's are one of the least valuable things to have is a leap in logic.

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