Defensive Line

[chuxtrux]

If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Shush, we're going to run the awesome hybrid that all of our current players fit into remember the roster is 85% done!

I can never understand how people get married to football players who play on a 2-14 team. They were 2-14 because they were pretty shitty.
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[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

I can never understand how people get married to football players who play on a 2-14 team. They were 2-14 because they were pretty shitty.
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No kidding, it doesn't make much sense but it happens.

[Pioli Zombie]

Its like the folks last night talking about how adding Boldin would make the offense UNSTOPPABLE.
Get real. I don't see Montana, Rice,Taylor out there or Brady, Moss, and Welker with excellent rosters supporting them

This is the Chiefs. They need an overhaul worthy of a 2-14 team.
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[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Its like the folks last night talking about how adding Boldin would make the offense UNSTOPPABLE.
Get real. I don't see Montana, Rice,Taylor out there or Brady, Moss, and Welker with excellent rosters supporting them

This is the Chiefs. They need an overhaul worthy of a 2-14 team.
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Dude we got people who think they're going to the playoffs next year because "we got talent and Herm was just a bad coach"

The Chiefs front 7 needs an enema more than a new scheme.

[Pioli Zombie]

If your front 7 sucks your team sucks.
Raji and then some.

Why can't the Chiefs get players like Jared Allen?
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[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Dude we got people who think they're going to the playoffs next year because "we got talent and Herm was just a bad coach"

The Chiefs front 7 needs an enema more than a new scheme.

See, this is interesting to me, especially because the team has already added Thomas and Vrabel. I was discussing this elsewhere, but Chiefsplanet is as good a place for it as anywhere....

If the Chiefs see Dorsey as a 3-4 end, then they take Raji and have 2 of the 3 DL spots nailed down for the next 5-6 seasons. If they see Dorsey as a 3-4 NT, they take Curry and have 3 of the 4 LB spots nailed down this year while Curry learns on the job. Either way, the team should be significantly better in the front seven going forward, even if no other moves were to be made (which I expect will not be the case).

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Dude we got people who think they're going to the playoffs next year because "we got talent and Herm was just a bad coach"

The Chiefs front 7 needs an enema more than a new scheme.

And it's already improved a ton even before the draft. I think it's entirely possible we're a half-decent team 5-9(wow, maybe. don't forget it's the top of a broad range) wins next year. I think the offense will be pretty good, and the defense will be better.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

See, this is interesting to me, especially because the team has already added Thomas and Vrabel. I was discussing this elsewhere, but Chiefsplanet is as good a place for it as anywhere....

If the Chiefs see Dorsey as a 3-4 end, then they take Raji and have 2 of the 3 DL spots nailed down for the next 5-6 seasons. If they see Dorsey as a 3-4 NT, they take Curry and have 3 of the 4 LB spots nailed down this year while Curry learns on the job. Either way, the team should be significantly better in the front seven going forward, even if no other moves were to be made (which I expect will not be the case).

How would they have 3 of the 4 LB spots nailed down for 5 years? Curry is the only guy there that is still going to be playing 5 years from now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by bdeg

And it's already improved a ton even before the draft. I think it's entirely possible we're a half-decent team 5-9 wins next year. I think the offense will be pretty good, and the defense will be better.

Half decent is a fine expectation...they have a ridiculous schedule and still lack alot of things though...

I don't see more than 6 wins honestly.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mecca

How would they have 3 of the 4 LB spots nailed down for 5 years? Curry is the only guy there that is still going to be playing 5 years from now.

I didn't say that, so you misread it. Take another look.

[Pioli Zombie]

I wouldn't be against the Chiefs getting Shaun Rogers AND drafting Raji the way the Patriots brought in Keith Traylor the year they drafted Wilfork. Lots of big tubs of goo are needed at Arrowhead.
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[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I didn't say that, so you misread it. Take another look.

Eh I read it real fast...the problem remains most of them are going to be role players. I mean that isn't horrid but they don't appear to have the NT or the pass rusher they'll need.

Plus we have a defensive coaching staff that most people would agree is rather questionable.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Half decent is a fine expectation...they have a ridiculous schedule and still lack alot of things though...

I don't see more than 6 wins honestly.

It would be a ridiculous schedule if we didn't get to play the AFCW. As it stands it's pretty tough, ya.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

I wouldn't be against the Chiefs getting Shaun Rogers AND drafting Raji the way the Patriots brought in Keith Traylor the year they drafted Wilfork. Lots of big tubs of goo are needed at Arrowhead.
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The Guardian will be along shortly to rip you a new one...didn't you read his post about how we don't need 290lb ends and if you think we do you don't understand anything?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Eh I read it real fast...the problem remains most of them are going to be role players. I mean that isn't horrid but they don't appear to have the NT or the pass rusher they'll need.

Plus we have a defensive coaching staff that most people would agree is rather questionable.

Well, again..... the NT would either be Dorsey, if they think he can do it, or Raji. It really shouldn't be about this upcoming season for the team and fans anyway. This is a year that people should be looking at improvement that may not translate to wins. Next season should be an easier schedule and the second year under the new regime. That's when the wins should really start to take on some significance.