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Old 04-21-2009, 10:42 PM  
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Fatlock wants Coffman in KC
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1155419.html

I have to agree with him

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Old 04-21-2009, 11:26 PM   #61
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I do kinda think that Coffman will be a productive offensive player in the NFL provided he lands with the right team. His hands are pretty incredible.
This is true..dude's got sticky fingers.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:26 PM   #62
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I do kinda think that Coffman will be a productive offensive player in the NFL provided he lands with the right team. His hands are pretty incredible.
He's just...so slow of the top 15 prospects he Brandon Pettigrew and Richard Quinn are the slowest 40's at 4.85.

Difference is they are both 260 lbs while he's 240 and they're both considered very good blockers while he is not.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:27 PM   #63
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You know Chase Coffmans scouting report basically says he's an average blocker from the spread that doesn't have much wiggle or shiftiness after the catch?
The 2 guys youve mentioned are less of blockers than Coffman was. Coffman isnt a bad blocker for such a tall guy, he just wasnt asked to block much in that spread. As far as his after the catch abilities... I know he was good because I watched him play the last 4 years. I dont need somebody elses report to tell me this when I know first hand he was very productive after the catch.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:29 PM   #64
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He's just...so slow of the top 15 prospects he Brandon Pettigrew and Richard Quinn are the slowest 40's at 4.85.

Difference is they are both 260 lbs while he's 240 and they're both considered very good blockers while he is not.
IDK where people are getting his 40 from anyway when he wasnt even timed? He hasnt even ran a 40 since he was done at Mizzou...These guys are guessing, they dont know.
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Yes they aren't good blockers but they have something he doesn't...elite TE speed.

Jared Cook is a nightmare to matchup with because of his speed, Coffman is slow for a TE.

So I'd pose this question, what do you do with a receiving TE who is slow?
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:30 PM   #66
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He's just...so slow of the top 15 prospects he Brandon Pettigrew and Richard Quinn are the slowest 40's at 4.85.

Difference is they are both 260 lbs while he's 240 and they're both considered very good blockers while he is not.
Coffman is definitely more specialized, true. I think his 40 time is a.) not as large a concern as it might normally be because he's pretty adept at route running; I have every reason to believe that he can effectively run an NFL route, and b.) his time was probably hampered a little bit by injury.

Which obviously brings the "injury prone" concern to the table. All in all, I think that he can be a good player for some team that recognizes what he is and what he isn't. Because of that limited nature and injury concerns, though, his current ranking of around 7th at his position seems accurate.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:32 PM   #67
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Yes they aren't good blockers but they have something he doesn't...elite TE speed.

Jared Cook is a nightmare to matchup with because of his speed, Coffman is slow for a TE.

So I'd pose this question, what do you do with a receiving TE who is slow?
What like Tony? Because thats exactly what he is.

If speed was all that mattered in TE's then Vernon Davis would have made a pro-bowl by now.
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The 2 guys youve mentioned are less of blockers than Coffman was. Coffman isnt a bad blocker for such a tall guy, he just wasnt asked to block much in that spread. As far as his after the catch abilities... I know he was good because I watched him play the last 4 years. I dont need somebody elses report to tell me this when I know first hand he was very productive after the catch.
He was a beast after the catch... out of a spread offense. I'm confident that he can run NFL routes well enough to get separation, but he's going to have to prove his YAC abilities at the next level. And his jump move isn't going to cut it all the time, either.
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Coffman is definitely more specialized, true. I think his 40 time is a.) not as large a concern as it might normally be because he's pretty adept at route running; I have every reason to believe that he can effectively run an NFL route, and b.) his time was probably hampered a little bit by injury.

Which obviously brings the "injury prone" concern to the table. All in all, I think that he can be a good player for some team that recognizes what he is and what he isn't. Because of that limited nature and injury concerns, though, his current ranking of around 7th at his position seems accurate.
Sounds about right..

I admit I'm a Jared Cook fan if I wanted a TE that'd be my guy I consider him the #1 TE in the draft.
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What like Tony? Because thats exactly what he is.

If speed was all that mattered in TE's then Vernon Davis would have made a pro-bowl by now.
If Tony Gonzalez ran a 4.8 he wouldn't have been a 1st round pick...

See people always go to this "speed isn't all that matters" argument but you know what? There is a giant list of guys who were great college players that were just to slow to separate at the next level so they quietly faded away.

If speed wasn't important you wouldn't see the huge value put on it. Vernon Davis has failed so far...what about all the other super athletic TE's that dominate their position?
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heres a Coffman video for anyone who cares.
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heres a Coffman video for anyone who cares.
That jump move is gonna get him paralyzed if he doesn't abandon it in the league.
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That video looks great and all (ah, memories) but he's got to find something else besides the leapfrog move to get past DBs.

Random thought, but sometimes Coffman looks a lot like Crabtree to me.
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That jump move is gonna get him paralyzed if he doesn't abandon it in the league.
Ha I thought the same thing, he busts that out in the NFL he'll get his block knocked off.

He's what I know he is already. He's a big kid who isn't all that fast catching and playing in space.
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