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Mecca · 04-25-2009, 09:48 PM

I'm surprised no one is talking about Michael Johnson...

BigChiefFan · 04-25-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm surprised no one is talking about Michael Johnson...

I've got him on my list and think as a 3rd rounder, he's worth taking a chance on. I would like to think Chan Gailey has the inside track on him. The top of the draft was pretty average, but this may be the best 3rd round in recent memory. Plenty of talent still available, who have realistic shots at being starters, especially on our team.

T-post Tom · 04-25-2009, 09:58 PM

2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

Jamon Meredith, OL, South Carolina

If NFL teams are looking for an offensive lineman to come in and contribute immediately, they can look no further than this South Carolina Gamecock. To say Meredith is high on the experience factor would be an understatement. He redshirted as a freshman after playing in one game, and coming into 2008 he had started 28 consecutive games; 29 in total dating back to his freshman season. Meredith started 18 straight at left tackle protecting his quarterback's blind side, but recently he has been forced to show his versatility. He had to sit out two games at the start of this season due to having played during his 2005 redshirt year, and coach Steve Spurrier moved him to guard upon his return. In addition to his football skills (which include running under 5.0 in the 40-yard-dash despite his size), Meredith is outstanding in the classroom and will bring no off-the-field concerns with him into the next level. Right now he looks like a second-rounder in the 2009 draft. Meredith has the frame to get even bigger and he needs to show he can truly dominate a game up front before NFL brass will be convinced to go for him in round one.

tonyetony · 04-25-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

Jamon Meredith, OL, South Carolina

If NFL teams are looking for an offensive lineman to come in and contribute immediately, they can look no further than this South Carolina Gamecock. To say Meredith is high on the experience factor would be an understatement. He redshirted as a freshman after playing in one game, and coming into 2008 he had started 28 consecutive games; 29 in total dating back to his freshman season. Meredith started 18 straight at left tackle protecting his quarterback's blind side, but recently he has been forced to show his versatility. He had to sit out two games at the start of this season due to having played during his 2005 redshirt year, and coach Steve Spurrier moved him to guard upon his return. In addition to his football skills (which include running under 5.0 in the 40-yard-dash despite his size), Meredith is outstanding in the classroom and will bring no off-the-field concerns with him into the next level. Right now he looks like a second-rounder in the 2009 draft. Meredith has the frame to get even bigger and he needs to show he can truly dominate a game up front before NFL brass will be convinced to go for him in round one.

I saw one report on him that said to think of him as a Jordon Black clone. I shuddered and mumbled at the thought. Although at RT I think Merideth has more upside than Sackintosh.

T-post Tom · 04-25-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

I saw one report on him that said to think of him as a Jordon Black clone. I shuddered and mumbled at the thought. Although at RT I think Merideth has more upside than Sackintosh.

Jordan Black/Jeff Criswell/Kyle Turley/Victor Riley/Damien Mackintosh = epic

milkman · 04-26-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

I saw one report on him that said to think of him as a Jordon Black clone. I shuddered and mumbled at the thought. Although at RT I think Merideth has more upside than Sackintosh.

Meredith has better athletic ability, and better feet than Jordan Black.

tboss27 · 04-26-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm surprised no one is talking about Michael Johnson...

I think it would be a good move. Goodness knows we need some speed off the end, he definitely fits the profile. He may only be a 3rd down OLB in the 3-4 or end in the 4-3, but if he is capable of being as good a pass rusher as he was at GT he would be well worth the pick.

Mecca · 04-25-2009, 09:53 PM

Tate tore his ACL in October he should be ok...he also tested positive for weed right before the draft though.

Hoover · 04-25-2009, 09:55 PM

My money is on Jamon Meredith.

Mecca · 04-25-2009, 09:59 PM

I've seen Meredith projected as a OT and a guard, I wonder which he is.

milkman · 04-26-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I've seen Meredith projected as a OT and a guard, I wonder which he is.

I'd play him RT.

He's not the mauler that you'd like right now, but he has the frame to add some weight and get stronger, but he has good feet and size, and would be able to handle the DE on that side in pass protect.

If he's still there at 67, I think I'd have to jump at the chance to draft him.

BigChiefFan · 04-25-2009, 10:04 PM

The difference 20 pounds makes?
1:56 pm April 24, 2009, by Doug Roberson

Guess who this player is:

He’s 6-6, 283 pounds. Had 13 sacks as a junior, 24 in his career. Left school. Ran a 4.65-40 at combine. Benched 225 pounds, 35 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off.

Now, guess who this player is:

He’s 6-7, 266 pounds. Had nine sacks as a senior, his first season starting full-time. Also played on several special teams units. Ran a 4.69-40, benched 225 pounds 28 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off. Could fall to the third round, according to some mock drafts.

The first player is Mario Williams, whom the Texans selected No. 1 in the 2006 draft. He’s gone on to have 30.5 sacks in Houston, and is considered one of the best defensive ends in the NFL.

The second player is…..you guessed it, Michael Johnson.

So, why did Williams go No. 1, while Johnson could fall as low as the 70s in tomorrow’s draft?

Williams is obviously bigger, and stronger, but does 20 pounds and eight reps make that much of a difference?

NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock has blistered Johnson over and over, but many people were saying the same thing about Williams.

Could Johnson be the sleeper in the draft?

T-post Tom · 04-25-2009, 10:06 PM

Duke Robinson, OL, Oklahoma

It is not everyday that a true freshman plays a role on Oklahoma. But Duke Robinson played in ten games at left guard in 2005 and even some saw action at left tackle. By his sophomore campaign, Robinson was a staple at left guard and took more snaps than any other linemen on the team. For his efforts he earned All-Big 12 honorable mention accolades. As a junior, Robinson cemented his status as one of the best guards in the nation.
At 6-5 and 335 pounds, Robinson is a big, big man. He is a road-grader who could be a starting guard on many teams in the NFL as a rookie. Ideally, Robinson should be a guard, but he is versatile enough to play at the right tackle spot if needed and that will be a big plus for some teams.

Not many offensive guards crack the first round of the NFL Draft, but Duke Robinson is one of the few who can. His size, experience and sheer talent will be difficult for teams in need for a guard to pass up. Robinson could slip into the second round since he is a guard, but he will almost certainly be the first taken in April.

Mecca · 04-25-2009, 10:05 PM

The problem with Johnson is he's just never been a big on field producer, he's more athlete than football player.

BigChiefFan · 04-25-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The problem with Johnson is he's just never been a big on field producer, he's more athlete than football player.

He can get to the QB, but he's probably a better fit as an OLBer in a 3-4, than a DE, for sure, that's why I like Gilbert, because he solidifies the D-line, at least in theory.

I also still really like Duke Robinson, that's hellacious value in the 3rd round-I hope the Lions or Rams don't draft him.

04-25-2009, 09:48 PM	#1
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-732950	I'm surprised no one is talking about Michael Johnson...
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04-25-2009, 09:58 PM	#3
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1747293	2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report: Jamon Meredith, OL, South Carolina If NFL teams are looking for an offensive lineman to come in and contribute immediately, they can look no further than this South Carolina Gamecock. To say Meredith is high on the experience factor would be an understatement. He redshirted as a freshman after playing in one game, and coming into 2008 he had started 28 consecutive games; 29 in total dating back to his freshman season. Meredith started 18 straight at left tackle protecting his quarterback's blind side, but recently he has been forced to show his versatility. He had to sit out two games at the start of this season due to having played during his 2005 redshirt year, and coach Steve Spurrier moved him to guard upon his return. In addition to his football skills (which include running under 5.0 in the 40-yard-dash despite his size), Meredith is outstanding in the classroom and will bring no off-the-field concerns with him into the next level. Right now he looks like a second-rounder in the 2009 draft. Meredith has the frame to get even bigger and he needs to show he can truly dominate a game up front before NFL brass will be convinced to go for him in round one. __________________ You seem nice!
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-732950	Tate tore his ACL in October he should be ok...he also tested positive for weed right before the draft though.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2181821	My money is on Jamon Meredith.
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04-25-2009, 09:59 PM	#10
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-732950	I've seen Meredith projected as a OT and a guard, I wonder which he is.
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04-25-2009, 10:04 PM	#12
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	The difference 20 pounds makes? 1:56 pm April 24, 2009, by Doug Roberson Guess who this player is: He’s 6-6, 283 pounds. Had 13 sacks as a junior, 24 in his career. Left school. Ran a 4.65-40 at combine. Benched 225 pounds, 35 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off. Now, guess who this player is: He’s 6-7, 266 pounds. Had nine sacks as a senior, his first season starting full-time. Also played on several special teams units. Ran a 4.69-40, benched 225 pounds 28 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off. Could fall to the third round, according to some mock drafts. The first player is Mario Williams, whom the Texans selected No. 1 in the 2006 draft. He’s gone on to have 30.5 sacks in Houston, and is considered one of the best defensive ends in the NFL. The second player is…..you guessed it, Michael Johnson. So, why did Williams go No. 1, while Johnson could fall as low as the 70s in tomorrow’s draft? Williams is obviously bigger, and stronger, but does 20 pounds and eight reps make that much of a difference? NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock has blistered Johnson over and over, but many people were saying the same thing about Williams. Could Johnson be the sleeper in the draft? __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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04-25-2009, 10:06 PM	#13
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1747293	Duke Robinson, OL, Oklahoma It is not everyday that a true freshman plays a role on Oklahoma. But Duke Robinson played in ten games at left guard in 2005 and even some saw action at left tackle. By his sophomore campaign, Robinson was a staple at left guard and took more snaps than any other linemen on the team. For his efforts he earned All-Big 12 honorable mention accolades. As a junior, Robinson cemented his status as one of the best guards in the nation. At 6-5 and 335 pounds, Robinson is a big, big man. He is a road-grader who could be a starting guard on many teams in the NFL as a rookie. Ideally, Robinson should be a guard, but he is versatile enough to play at the right tackle spot if needed and that will be a big plus for some teams. Not many offensive guards crack the first round of the NFL Draft, but Duke Robinson is one of the few who can. His size, experience and sheer talent will be difficult for teams in need for a guard to pass up. Robinson could slip into the second round since he is a guard, but he will almost certainly be the first taken in April. __________________ You seem nice!
Posts: 22,376

04-25-2009, 10:05 PM	#14
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-732950	The problem with Johnson is he's just never been a big on field producer, he's more athlete than football player.
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