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Old 11-16-2009, 11:32 PM  
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Bill Maas: Cassel = Grbac
Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:51 AM   #61
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I guess petty pansies are easily irritated.
Irritated?

I just feel compelled to call you a stupid bitch.

I call it observational honesty.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:54 AM   #62
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I don't get that comparison at all.
Especially after 10 weeks How long did we spend trying to stomach the illusion that Grbackup was the savior Peterson promised?
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:57 AM   #64
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I heard this yesterday as well. Not sure what to think at this early stage, but i would like to think Maas is wrong.

Last week on the same radio program, Maas was letting Haley have it pretty good. I don't remember exactly what was said, but it wasn't good. Granted that may be justified, but i thought it was worth mentioning when coupled with what Maas said this week.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:58 AM   #65
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I heard this yesterday as well. Not sure what to think at this early stage, but i would like to think Maas is wrong.
Who gives a **** what Mass thinks?...
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:01 AM   #66
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Who gives a **** what Mass thinks?...
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Who gives a shit what some washed up has been on a radio show says. Dear lord. It's his job to say things like this. Sometimes I think the people around here were born yesterday.
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Wow. Dumbest thing Maas has ever said.

I thought Maas was a premium subscriber at WPI...you shouldnt be talking about your clientele like that
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Maas is usually pretty good, but he's forcing it here. All signs I've seen point to Cassel being much more level-headed and generally self-confident than Grbac. Grbac was a weekly distraction. Coaches and other players were always having to talk him up. "I can't throw the ball and catch it, too" is something you would never, ever hear Cassel say.
I am not totally sold on Cassel yet, but I agree with this. Just this last game, you could see him over talking to, and consoling players after they ****ed up. Grbac would have never done that.
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I am not totally sold on Cassel yet, but I agree with this. Just this last game, you could see him over talking to, and consoling players after they ****ed up. Grbac would have never done that.
I'm with you.

I'm not sold on Cassel's talent, but I do believe he's a solid guy in the huddle and around the team.
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Doesn't have what it takes to be a great NFL QB? "Great" NFL QBs come around a few times a decade. You'll be throwing out plenty of QB's if your standard is great/not great. These days you're doing well if you can just get a serviceable NFL QB that can stay on the field. As far as "his only hope is to be surrounded by talent"- ok, just like any other NFL QB. No matter what QB it is, he still needs to be surrounded by talent. What, can you find a QB and say, "Well, we're all set on offense. We've got a great QB. Let's surround him with horse-crap, because this guy doesn't need any talent around him. Let's spend the next 8 years drafting all defensive players."
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Doesn't have what it takes to be a great NFL QB? "Great" NFL QBs come around a few times a decade. You'll be throwing out plenty of QB's if your standard is great/not great. These days you're doing well if you can just get a serviceable NFL QB that can stay on the field. As far as "his only hope is to be surrounded by talent"- ok, just like any other NFL QB. No matter what QB it is, he still needs to be surrounded by talent. What, can you find a QB and say, "Well, we're all set on offense. We've got a great QB. Let's surround him with horse-crap, because this guy doesn't need any talent around him. Let's spend the next 8 years drafting all defensive players."
Give me a franchise QB and a top 5 defense, and I'll take my chances with the rest of the league.

Now, clearly you can't have crap talent on offense surrounding that QB, but solid role players on offense can win a SB in that scenario.

See Tom Brady.
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Doesn't have what it takes to be a great NFL QB?
Well, he's right about that.

He doesn't have a line, consistent play from his WR's, or playcalling worth a ****...
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More than anything else, the one single play from the Grbac era that screams no leadership was the play at the end of the playoff game against Denver. One play to keep the game winning drive going. The one where the headset in his helmet malfunctioned, and he went into full meltdown right there in front of a national TV audience. Pissed right down his leg while slapping the side of his helmet indicating he couldn't hear the coaches call. I still can not see a franchise QB doing that. A Manning, Brady, Favre, Montana, or any other QB would have know what to do in that situation instead of peeing down his leg like Grbac did.

Cassel... I see him being able to make a call and run the correct play under those circumstances without having someone make it for him. Weather or not he could make the play work? But he did look better last week than any other game this season. Can he continue to build on that this week against a tougher Steeler defense? If so, then I think maybe he could be a franchise QB. If we take a couple of steps backwards this week, then I would still have to question if he is the correct choice to lead us into the future.
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Give me a franchise QB and a top 5 defense, and I'll take my chances with the rest of the league.

Now, clearly you can't have crap talent on offense surrounding that QB, but solid role players on offense can win a SB in that scenario.

See Tom Brady.
Yeah, and Tom Bradys come around almost never. That was one of my points. If you're sitting around waiting for a Brady or a Manning, you'll be waiting a long time. Even with those guys they still try and surround them with as much talent as possible on offense.
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I watched the entire game. Stafford looked like a young rookie QB with some promise. His receiver did not help him at all. The drops are horrendous on that team. He will be good one day. I prefered him over Sanchez in the draft, we'll see how they turn up.
Non sequitur theater here, posting this here simply because somehow this reminded me of it, but did anyone catch the Rams game? They have a receiver Avery who made two of the sickest catches for TDs I've seen a player on a shitty team make. Hadn't paid much attention to the home town team, but that guy is showing some promise.
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