Chiefs This far in, would you say Cassel was the only option for the Chiefs? - Page 5

RedThat · 11-24-2009, 01:27 PM

I think so.

Really what could they have done to upgrade the QB position? Not much. They had no shot at Stafford, or, Matt Ryan from the previous year.

They were in range to draft Sanchez, but Id be more content with Cassel to this point since Sanchez is playing terrible.

What else could they have done? stick with Croyle or Thigpen? I was content when Thigpen was playing well, and thought we had some sort of chemistry, connection with Gailey's spread offense and Thigpen. But that all fell apart when the new regime took over.

I can't think of anything else? they could have traded up and try to get either Stafford or Ryan, but we know that would have been too costly. I guess he was the Chiefs best bet? Best thing is to just sit back, have some patience and wait for him to develop over time.

LaChapelle · 11-24-2009, 04:52 PM

While Castle was stinking the place up, the camera paned down to Brodie standing near a equipment box with some older dude. I wonder how close Matt came to being yanked

CoMoChief · 11-24-2009, 04:54 PM

If Brodie Croyle wasn't made of glass I still to this day would rather have him at QB

**DeezNutz** · 11-24-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

hell yes ... anyone that even considering any other option than Sanchez got gang ****ed by a "group of 14"

There was a lot riding on this off-season, and it definitely got heated, but it worked both ways. In reality, no one was victimized.

In hindsight, there should have been more discussion about players like Maclin, Harvin, Crabtree, and Moreno, since we ultimately went a pretty stupid route with the Jackson selection. And any of the previous 4 would have been a more effective choice.

Oh, well...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-24-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

When you're sacked this often, that is going to happen.

I'm not in a position to look it up, but Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than Cassel, and hasn't fumbled nine times.

keg in kc · 11-24-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not in a position to look it up, but Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than Cassel, and hasn't fumbled nine times.

NFL.com says Rodgers has 7 fumbles and has been sacked 43 times. Last year, he had 34 sacks and fumbled 10 times, whereas Cassel was sacked 49 times with 7 fumbles.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not in a position to look it up, but Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than Cassel, and hasn't fumbled nine times.

Probably not. I don't think Cassel is perfect, my point is when you get knocked around as much as Cassel does, you're bound to lose the ball here and there. Rodgers has 7 fumbles. He's been sacked 43 times.

RedThat · 11-24-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I don't want to open a huge can of worms, but they had a shot at both of these guys. The cost may have been expensive, but a trade up could have happened. IIRC, both the Fish and the Rams were looking for trade down partners leading up to the 2008 draft, and I am not so sure the Falcons would not have moved either if the "price was right". Same for last year. I bet the Lions would have listened if Clark would have offered up a deal to swap spots.

And I mentioned this before. they could of traded up, but they would of mortgaged their future. So, with a team that is rebuilding, I guess the whole concept was to give up very little value as possible and get the best QB possible (Cassel). He was the most suitable choice given the teams circumstance, situation. Matt Ryan is the best QB though imo.

ChiefsCountry · 11-24-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Cassel was the best choice.... not the only one, but the best one.

The only franchise QB available in the draft was Stafford, and the price to get him was too high. Sanchez will be a very similar QB to Cassel down the road. They were both largely backups at USC.

Cassel is taller, and was only a second round draft pick.

And, Pioli knew him. He has proven to be as advertised. He is a tough, hardworking QB. And, despite coming from a great team to a poor team, he has continued to work hard, play hard, and actually give a d@mn.

Sanchez will be a Matt Hasselbeck kind of QB, which is fine, but about the same as Cassel will be.

I think in the end, the guys who were drooling over Sanchez will be dissapointed. And, the guys who think he is going to be a bust will be proven wrong.

He will be a decent, middle of the road QB. Which is what Cassel will be. So, why spend the #3 pick on a QB with similar talent, that the GM is less familiar with?

Well with you saying that, Sanchez will be a HOF then.

el borracho · 11-24-2009, 07:38 PM

Oh, yes! Cassel was the only choice. How could we ever have achieved 3-7 with any other QB?

And OMG! The rookie QB is throwing interceptions? Irrefutable proof that he sucks, sucks hard and will always suck. Yep... no denying it.

**MahiMike** · 11-24-2009, 07:57 PM

All you need to know about Cassel is the 30 yd pass from to Lance Long in the most pressure situation he's been in all year.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-24-2009, 08:43 PM

So by my math, Aaron Rodgers has fumbled once every 6.14 sacks, while Matt Cassel has fumbled once every 3.7 sacks.

I'd say that's pretty significant.

Hammock Parties · 11-24-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

All you need to know about Cassel is the 30 yd pass from to Lance Long in the most pressure situation he's been in all year.

He's thrown that particular pass well all year. He threw it to Long with pinpoint accuracy and he's thrown it to Wade at least twice. He threw a similar pass to Bowe for the tying TD against Dallas.

I look at that and don't miss Thigpen a bit.

**DeezNutz** · 11-24-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I look at that and don't miss Thigpen a bit.

The fact that this skeleton ****er is even being discussed by fans isn't a real positive sign about Cassel's play thus far.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 11-24-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So by my math, Aaron Rodgers has fumbled once every 6.14 sacks, while Matt Cassel has fumbled once every 3.7 sacks.

I'd say that's pretty significant.

while we are making up stats...I guess it should be pointed out that Brady has a 3.5 sack/fumble ratio. Manning a 4.0 sack/fumble ratio. And Sanchez with a 1.9 sack/fumble ratio

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-24-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

while we are making up stats...I guess it should be pointed out that Brady has a 3.5 sack/fumble ratio. Manning a 4.0 sack/fumble ratio. And Sanchez with a 1.9 sack/fumble ratio

Great.

What does that have to do with this, again?

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

When you're sacked this often, that is going to happen.

Just pointing out that getting hit isn't an excuse for coughing up the ball - and that a fumble a game is unacceptable.

11-24-2009, 01:27 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	This far in, would you say Cassel was the only option for the Chiefs? I think so. Really what could they have done to upgrade the QB position? Not much. They had no shot at Stafford, or, Matt Ryan from the previous year. They were in range to draft Sanchez, but Id be more content with Cassel to this point since Sanchez is playing terrible. What else could they have done? stick with Croyle or Thigpen? I was content when Thigpen was playing well, and thought we had some sort of chemistry, connection with Gailey's spread offense and Thigpen. But that all fell apart when the new regime took over. I can't think of anything else? they could have traded up and try to get either Stafford or Ryan, but we know that would have been too costly. I guess he was the Chiefs best bet? Best thing is to just sit back, have some patience and wait for him to develop over time.
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el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $2509148	Oh, yes! Cassel was the only choice. How could we ever have achieved 3-7 with any other QB? And OMG! The rookie QB is throwing interceptions? Irrefutable proof that he sucks, sucks hard and will always suck. Yep... no denying it.
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11-24-2009, 08:43 PM	#71
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	So by my math, Aaron Rodgers has fumbled once every 6.14 sacks, while Matt Cassel has fumbled once every 3.7 sacks. I'd say that's pretty significant.
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