Jamaal Charles is infact an every down back

[Wyndex]

He reminds me of Priest Holmes prior to his hip injury with his explosiveness. He has the ability to make a big play every time he touches the ball. Has proven that he has more power than what people give him credit for. Amazingly fast. Appears to be pretty damn durable so far. Beef up the offensive line in front of him and just watch him tear shit up week in week out

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It doesn't even have to be a big guy, but as deep as the RB position is every year it shouldn't be hard to go 3 deep at that position.

I don't care if it's necessarily a big guy. I just don't agree with using marquee picks to do it. The Chiefs need a goal line/short yardage back. Regardless of whether you want Charles alone or a Charles/Spiller platoon. Between Charles and a goal line back and probably a few QB runs, that's good for about 25 runs.

Just saying, if all we need is a guy to shoulder 5-10 carries, we dont' need to use a top 5 pick.

[Mecca]

I only pimp CJ Spiller because he's truly special, I think you make exceptions in a rare case.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Well, you'd think that.

Then we go and draft someone like Javarris Williams.

Wasn't he like a 7th rounder or something like that?

So maybe that one was not a hit but the idea is right.

You can find RBs in the mid to late rounds.

[Mecca]

They drafted a RB in the 7th round that carried it something like 350 times a year for 4 years...why would you do that?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by suds79

Wasn't he like a 7th rounder or something like that?

So maybe that one was not a hit but the idea is right.

You can find RBs in the mid to late rounds.

Oh, I agree.

I just think it was stupid to waste a pick on a guy that had basically been abused in college.

People need to get out of this mindset that late round picks are just throwaways - they're not. We threw away 3 picks on Williams and O'Connell.

Stupid.

[Mecca]

If the Chiefs had valued their late round picks over the past couple of years our LB's wouldn't completely suck.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I only pimp CJ Spiller because he's truly special, I think you make exceptions in a rare case.

I'm sure he is. I actually do trust your draft advice.

But I also think Charles has proven to be a special back too. And no matter what way people massage it, they are essentially the same back. The main exception is that Spiller can split out wide.

I know you usually don't pass on playmakers. But I also don't think you replace a proven playmaker for another playmaker, when you have a team starving for talent everywhere else.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Oh, I agree.

I just think it was stupid to waste a pick on a guy that had basically been abused in college.

People need to get out of this mindset that late round picks are just throwaways - they're not. We threw away 3 picks on Williams and O'Connell.

Stupid.

agreed

[Mecca]

I wouldn't be replacing Charles, I'd be giving teams different looks and essentially taking the ball out of our shitty QB's hands.

Actually I might consider bringing in another RB too. Charles and Spiller don't run the same at all either, and Spiller is a dynamic returner which we don't have.

[Chiefaholic]

The team has too many needs at multiple other positions where our current starters wouldn't even make other clubs as a back-up. There's multiple options available on the FA market every year who are more than capable of spelling JC for 8-10 carries a game. More pressing needs are at SS, FS, both ILB positions, OLB opposite Hali, NT, C, RT, RG,LG, and QB..... I look at this list and just laugh at how bad this team actually SUCKS. The Chiefs can draft BPA available at every draft slot and still fill a position of need.

[Mecca]

More than anything this team needs playmakers, special players. Without them we're just going to build into a team that can't win big games.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I wouldn't be replacing Charles, I'd be giving teams different looks and essentially taking the ball out of our shitty QB's hands.

Actually I might consider bringing in another RB too. Charles and Spiller don't run the same at all either, and Spiller is a dynamic returner which we don't have.

I don't think there are as many unique looks as we might suggest. I've seen few teams run split-back formations consistently with two speed backs. You'd have to rely on more of a gimmick to make it happen. I think the better way to give a different look is to have an effective speed and power back. Because the defense requires two totally different personnel. If the defense has speed guys in there, you plow them with your power back and vice versa.

I'd love to have Spiller if I felt like we were a few pieces away. Right now, it feels like adding Spiller is no better than adding a 2-down player. Maybe less.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I wouldn't be replacing Charles, I'd be giving teams different looks and essentially taking the ball out of our shitty QB's hands.

Actually I might consider bringing in another RB too. Charles and Spiller don't run the same at all either, and Spiller is a dynamic returner which we don't have.

And yes, at this rate, if our strategy is to take the ball out of our QB's hands because our QB continues to play like this, then it's not going to matter who's running the ball. We're not going anywhere.

[Chiefaholic]

Unfortunately we only have one first round pick... We can't draft Berry and Spiller unless Pioli does some serious trading up in the draft.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If the Chiefs had valued their late round picks over the past couple of years our LB's wouldn't completely suck.

You could argue the Chiefs high round draft picks haven't been valued and have essentially been throwaway picks as well.