Chiefs Could R.McClain play ROLB? - Page 5

Red Coater · 01-15-2010, 12:54 PM

He is big and has the speed. Or do yall think he just stays as a inside LB? I think he could be a nightmare for QB's 6'4 256lbs and fast. He could be a monster. Also keep in minde we have a good D cord. That could teach him along with Vrabel. Then we could try to sign a guy like Barret Rudd from the Bucs to play IMLB or draft one. Hopefully B.Spikes falls to the 2nd round. What do yall think, bash away.

Mr. Laz · 01-15-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It's that time of year again for the Big 12 hatred mantra to kick in full force.

Believe it ... every year.

milkman · 01-15-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Coater

Was Derrick Thomas an ILB or OLB at Bamma?

He played WR at bama.

Mecca · 01-15-2010, 10:51 PM

Dude the track record of Texas is enough to be skeptical of their players.

**Manila-Chief** · 01-16-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It's that time of year again for the Big 12 hatred mantra to kick in full force.

Anyone from Texas is talented, but infinitely lazy and worthless as a NFL prospect and there's no way that they will make it in the NFL and if they do, I'll rape myself with a toilet brush.

And, it's time the Big 12 homers come out in full force.

"Anyone from Texas ..." I was about to say I've read some not so kind things about our LSU picks ... but, on 2nd. thought ... gotta agree they have not been that great.

Toad · 01-16-2010, 11:51 PM

IMHO it's unfair to judge a player based on past history of other players (U of Texas players). I'd rather judge a player based on his own performance.

Mecca · 01-17-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Toad

IMHO it's unfair to judge a player based on past history of other players (U of Texas players). I'd rather judge a player based on his own performance.

That's nice and all but Texas players have generally received poor coaching so they are talented but raw.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2010, 12:32 AM

Orakpo has to sustain his early level of play/production for at least 5 years for his draft position to have been justified and that may not happen, but Orakpo (and Aaron Rodgers before him) should teach a lesson that you shouldnt fully discount a rare talent just because of the school/system he played in college.

Mecca · 01-17-2010, 12:33 AM

There are a couple good players from the Mack Brown Texas era but it's really hard to go hey Orakpo and Michael Griffin cancel out all of the Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Leonard Davis etc etc etc.

RustShack · 01-17-2010, 12:37 AM

Texas produces about the same amount of great players as about as any other good NFL school, just with about five times as many busts.

Mecca · 01-17-2010, 12:40 AM

I like how Sacc threw up a Kansas player as an example, if you wanna make fun of a KU player being slow, Dez Briscoe is super slow.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2010, 01:05 AM

Texas players that have been drafted recently that were pretty good.

Brian Orakpo
Jamaal Charles
Jermichael Finley
Mike Griffin
Aaron Ross
Justin Blaylock
Bryan Robinson
Vince Young
Mike Huff
Cedric Griffin

I understand they werent very good before 06, but since then they have put out a decent amount of good prospects and a fairly low amount of busts.

They have had 19 players selected in the draft since 2006. The ones I listed were the ones I consider fairly good draft picks. The other 8 picks were not good, but not every pick is gonna be, either, to be fair.

Limas Sweed
Tony Hills
Frank Okam
Tim Crowder
Tarell Brown
Casey Studdard
David Thomas
Jonothan Scott
Rodrique Wright

Some of those guys can still end up good players in time.

I guess I havent fully understood the reason for all the hatred of the Texas picks here. Im sure DJ under-producing gives it a bit of a twist for us.

My ears are open because I am always learning...

Red Coater · 01-17-2010, 01:09 AM

and DJ?

Mecca · 01-17-2010, 01:19 AM

You should go further back than 2006, it starts with guys like Mike Williams, Roy Williams and Leonard Davis and even Quentin Jammer to an extent, it's about the really high valued players not living up.

Finley is a good player, so is Charles they were I believe 3rd and 4th round picks.

It's not so much about Texas players all sucking as the ones who are suppose to be stars bombing.

And for the record Mike Huff is a bum for where he got drafted.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You should go further back than 2006, it starts with guys like Mike Williams, Roy Williams and Leonard Davis and even Quentin Jammer to an extent, it's about the really high valued players not living up.

Finley is a good player, so is Charles they were I believe 3rd and 4th round picks.

It's not so much about Texas players all sucking as the ones who are suppose to be stars bombing.

And for the record Mike Huff is a bum for where he got drafted.

Heres the point Im trying to make though man, why should we go back further than four drafts to judge the potential effectiveness that their current players might have in the NFL?

Huff is the reason I am cooling off on Berry a little, at the moment. IMHO they are very similar prospects in many ways. He may get my endorsement back for our first rounder, but I just wonder how much impact he would have on a team like us that cant stop the run at all. McClain would step right in and make our whole defense better from his rookie year on.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Coater

and DJ?

DJ was drafted in 2005. Try to keep up.

01-15-2010, 12:54 PM
Red Coater Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Irving Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Could R.McClain play ROLB? He is big and has the speed. Or do yall think he just stays as a inside LB? I think he could be a nightmare for QB's 6'4 256lbs and fast. He could be a monster. Also keep in minde we have a good D cord. That could teach him along with Vrabel. Then we could try to sign a guy like Barret Rudd from the Bucs to play IMLB or draft one. Hopefully B.Spikes falls to the 2nd round. What do yall think, bash away.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1745912	Orakpo has to sustain his early level of play/production for at least 5 years for his draft position to have been justified and that may not happen, but Orakpo (and Aaron Rodgers before him) should teach a lesson that you shouldnt fully discount a rare talent just because of the school/system he played in college. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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01-17-2010, 12:33 AM	#68
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	There are a couple good players from the Mack Brown Texas era but it's really hard to go hey Orakpo and Michael Griffin cancel out all of the Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Leonard Davis etc etc etc.
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01-17-2010, 12:37 AM	#69
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	I like how Sacc threw up a Kansas player as an example, if you wanna make fun of a KU player being slow, Dez Briscoe is super slow.
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01-17-2010, 01:05 AM	#71
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1745912	Texas players that have been drafted recently that were pretty good. Brian Orakpo Jamaal Charles Jermichael Finley Mike Griffin Aaron Ross Justin Blaylock Bryan Robinson Vince Young Mike Huff Cedric Griffin I understand they werent very good before 06, but since then they have put out a decent amount of good prospects and a fairly low amount of busts. They have had 19 players selected in the draft since 2006. The ones I listed were the ones I consider fairly good draft picks. The other 8 picks were not good, but not every pick is gonna be, either, to be fair. Limas Sweed Tony Hills Frank Okam Tim Crowder Tarell Brown Casey Studdard David Thomas Jonothan Scott Rodrique Wright Some of those guys can still end up good players in time. I guess I havent fully understood the reason for all the hatred of the Texas picks here. Im sure DJ under-producing gives it a bit of a twist for us. My ears are open because I am always learning... __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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01-17-2010, 01:09 AM	#72
Red Coater Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Irving Texas Casino cash: $10004900	and DJ?
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01-17-2010, 01:19 AM	#73
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	You should go further back than 2006, it starts with guys like Mike Williams, Roy Williams and Leonard Davis and even Quentin Jammer to an extent, it's about the really high valued players not living up. Finley is a good player, so is Charles they were I believe 3rd and 4th round picks. It's not so much about Texas players all sucking as the ones who are suppose to be stars bombing. And for the record Mike Huff is a bum for where he got drafted.
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