Are You Smarter Than A Pioli? -2010

[ChiefsCountry]

I posted my 2009 in that as well. Lets just how good/bad we are after a few years.

[Chiefnj2]

If I'm being honest:

1. Berry (S)
2. Tate (WR)
2b. Brown (RT)
3. Butler (ILB)
4. Gibson (OLB)
5a. Cam Thomas (NT)
5b. Chris Scott(T/G)
5c. Tony Pike (QB)

There was a block of prospects mid 4th that I liked. I probably would have given up two 5s to try move up.

[Saccopoo]

1. Russell Okung, OT; OSU
2. Nate Allen, FS; SF
2. Brandon Spikes, MLB; UF
3. Damian Williams, WR; USC
4. Dennis Pitta, TE; BYU
5. Cam Thomas, DT; NC
5. Matt Tennant, C; BC
5. Chris Scott, OT; UT

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

1. Russell Okung, OT; OSU
2. Nate Allen, FS; SF
2. Brandon Spikes, MLB; UF
3. Damian Williams, WR; USC
4. Dennis Pitta, TE; BYU
5. Cam Thomas, DT; NC
5. Matt Tennant, C; BC
5. Chris Scott, OT; UT

Swap out the first three picks with Berry, Kindle and Lee, or Berry, Washington and Lee and I'd be happy with it as well.

[Amnorix]

Random note in a random thread -- Belichick mentioned in a radio interview today that two guys he took late in this year's draft (a 6 and a 7) were rated higher than late fourth round picks he made in the 2007 draft, "for example".

Clearly this draft was MUCH deeper than some prior drafts, and 2007 in particular, at least according to the Pats grading system.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Random note in a random thread -- Belichick mentioned in a radio interview today that two guys he took late in this year's draft (a 6 and a 7) were rated higher than late fourth round picks he made in the 2007 draft, "for example".

Clearly this draft was MUCH deeper than some prior drafts, and 2007 in particular, at least according to the Pats grading system.

That's why many of us have said that we need more than the normal "2.5" starters out of this draft.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's why many of us have said that we need more than the normal "2.5" starters out of this draft.

So do the Patriots.

I'm pretty pleased with the Pats draft. Certainly having 5 picks in the first three rounds helps quite a bit. Flipping a late 3 into a 2, probably a mid-2, in 2011 was a nice bonus since we ended up drafting 12 players already and likely can't use them all regardless.

But I'm not a draftnik so I can't speak to teh specifics of the players we took. I just like the positions filled, the draft strategy, and the profiles I've read of the players we did take.

[Amnorix]

Another random note -- BB also mentioned, in a different interview, that despite a few stars such as Ted Washington, Ricky Watters and (especially) Brett Favre, the 1991 draft was probably one of the weakest in NFL history.

http://football.about.com/od/nfldraf...raftresult.htm

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I think the Patriots did a very good job of addressing needs in this draft, even if I didn't necessarily agree with some of the players that they took.

I had them at one point for two straight years in the mock and added a punter both times. Mesko will really help you guys out in the field position game, which will be important.

The one thing I'm most critical of is Belichick's tunnel vision wrt: Florida players. I know that he has a close relationship with Meyer, but we've seen firsthand the dangers of a pro coach taking the advice of a college coach and selecting his players b/c of that close relationship.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think the Patriots did a very good job of addressing needs in this draft, even if I didn't necessarily agree with some of the players that they took.

I had them at one point for two straight years in the mock and added a punter both times. Mesko will really help you guys out in the field position game, which will be important.

Yes. Our punting situation has wavered between pathetic and mediocre for pretty much the entirety of BB's career with the Patriots. I'm glad he finally found a punter he liked, and I hope he's everything he seems like.

The one thing I'm most critical of is Belichick's tunnel vision wrt: Florida players. I know that he has a close relationship with Meyer, but we've seen firsthand the dangers of a pro coach taking the advice of a college coach and selecting his players b/c of that close relationship.

I've seen hits and misses with those. Chad Jackson was a complete whiff, but Jarvis Green as a 4th out of LSU was a big hit.

At first I thought it was pretty weird, but reading the write ups, they seem like they were in line with their draft position expectation. Heck, half you guys on this board wanted the Chiefs to take Spikes before the Pats got him in the 2nd.

And it's clear now that Hernandez, our 4th round pick, slid waaay down because of multiple failed marijuana tests. He passed at the combine, however, and if Meyer vouches for him....

The key really is Cunningham. He's the riskiest pick (due to the always-difficult conversion from DE to OLB), and yet the one we most need to be successful.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I'd love to snag Jimmy in the 2nd, but if I'm going to be honest I have to take him at 5. He's a franchise QB in my eyes and I would not have let him go with Matt Cassel as my starter. So I can't win this draft 3 years later when it's crystal clear that Eric Berry could be a Hall of Famer. I'm okay with that though. I think a franchise QB is the most important position on the field and I'll live with the decision.

1. Jimmy Clausen
2a. Taylor Mays
2b. Golden Tate
3a. Jon Asomoah
3b. Jimmy Graham
5a. Cam Thomas
5b. Selvish Capers

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I'd love to snag Jimmy in the 2nd, but if I'm going to be honest I have to take him at 5. He's a franchise QB in my eyes and I would not have let him go with Matt Cassel as my starter. So I can't win this draft 3 years later when it's crystal clear that Eric Berry could be a Hall of Famer. I'm okay with that though. I think a franchise QB is the most important position on the field and I'll live with the decision.

1. Jimmy Clausen
2a. Taylor Mays
2b. Golden Tate
3a. Jon Asomoah
3b. Jimmy Graham
5a. Cam Thomas
5b. Selvish Capers

I saw people taking Butler with 3b but he was gone by that pick, that's the only reason I didn't take him. Everyone should know by now I was all over that guy.

[Blick]

1. Eric Berry
2. Jimmy Clausen
2. Golden Tate
3. Everson Griffen
4. Darryl Sharpton
5. Cam Thomas
5. Matt Tennant
5. Chris Scott

[BossChief]

Berry
Clausen
Tate
Asamough
Moeaki
Tennant
Rolle

without knowing clausen would fall (and Im ok with the trade for Moeaki, so I kept in for both)

Clausen
Tate
Cody
Asamough
Moeaki
Tennant
Rolle

Id also like to say that this is total revisionist theory because some of those players I chose are going into situations that are far better than ours is presently, so they will do better than they would here IMO. For example, I could see Cody busting here, but can thrive in Baltimore.

[Nightfyre]

I would think a guy whose job is to be fat would thrive in KC.