Football Prisco: Re-grading 2007 draft: Three-year look back gives real picture - Page 5

Mecca · 04-28-2010, 09:25 PM

That was a really really bad draft, Herm had the 1 good draft in 08.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-28-2010, 09:28 PM

taking tjax with #3 will end up being piolis jamarcus russell pick

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-28-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

taking tjax with #3 will end up being piolis jamarcus russell pick

I'd take Russell at 5-tech over Jackson.

At least he could hit someone 52.1% of the time.

SenselessChiefsFan · 04-28-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd take Russell at 5-tech over Jackson.

At least he could hit someone 52.1% of the time.

Now, that's funny right there... I don't care who you are.

**KcMizzou** · 04-28-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Now, that's funny right there... I don't care who you are.

Neg rep for the Larry the Cable Guy.

(I didn't, but I wouldn't blame anyone who did.)

SenselessChiefsFan · 04-28-2010, 09:55 PM

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Neg rep for the Larry the Cable Guy.

(I didn't, but I wouldn't blame anyone who did.)

I am not his biggest fan, but considering the side that I was arguing... I figure it was apropos.

MadMax · 04-28-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...verlist_footer

Kansas City Chiefs: Grade: B-

They had seven picks and all they have to show for their draft is one starter (receiver Dwayne Bowe) and backup running back Kolby Smith. That's not a good haul. Bowe, the first-round pick, has been a good player. But the Chiefs blew picks on defensive linemen in the second and third rounds; Turk McBride and Tank Tyler are now with other teams. Smith is a solid backup who has started, so he has some value as a fifth-round pick. But that's it.

Do not evaluate till they hit their 30's, after all that is the criteria for Cassel.

Tombstone RJ · 04-28-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...verlist_footer

Kansas City Chiefs: Grade: D-

They had seven picks and all they have to show for their draft is one starter (receiver Dwayne Bowe) and backup running back Kolby Smith. That's not a good haul. Bowe, the first-round pick, has been a good player. But the Chiefs blew picks on defensive linemen in the second and third rounds; Turk McBride and Tank Tyler are now with other teams. Smith is a solid backup who has started, so he has some value as a fifth-round pick. But that's it.

Fixed it for you.

acesn8s · 04-28-2010, 10:35 PM

Wasting top pick after top pick on DL while your QB keeps getting knocked on his ass makes many of the drafts D-. tThis is the first year that the OL has been addressed properly since Roaf left. Since then we have watched Green get knocked out, Huard get bulldozed, Collins run for his life, Croyle end up on IR repeatedly, a Thigpen love affair, Cassel get hurt in a preseason game, and a calling for another QB because it is his fault that he has only 1.8 seconds to throw a pinpoint accurate throw to a WR corp that is a bunch of other teams castoffs. But DAMMIT we need defense!

L.A. Chieffan · 04-28-2010, 10:55 PM

i love how people use the hindsight argument.

if we say the pick sucks before he even gets picked and then he goes out and sucks thats not hindsight or being able to predict the future.

its using your brain.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-28-2010, 10:57 PM

you could actually make the argument that the tjax pick was even worse than the russell pick.

KCrockaholic · 04-28-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

you could actually make the argument that the tjax pick was even worse than the russell pick.

Ah, no....

Missing on a QB sets your team back 5-6 years. Missing on a 5-tech sets your D back a year or 2 until you replace him, not your entire team...Don't go that far.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-28-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Ah, no....

Missing on a QB sets your team back 5-6 years. Missing on a 5-tech sets your D back a year or 2 until you replace him, not your entire team...Don't go that far.

most people had jamarcus being drafted in the top 3 no matter what. you cant completely blame the raiders for blowing it.

KCrockaholic · 04-28-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

most people had jamarcus being drafted in the top 3 no matter what. you cant completely blame the raiders for blowing it.

Mental make-up is the most important part of scouting a QB. Oakland didn't even do that obviously. I don't mean to sound like I know everything, but even I knew Russell was going to be a huge bust. Russel didn't make Bowe, Davis and Doucet. Bowe, Davis, and Doucet made him and that was easy to see before JaMarcus was ever drafted.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-28-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Mental make-up is the most important part of scouting a QB. Oakland didn't even do that obviously. I don't mean to sound like I know everything, but even I knew Russell was going to be a huge bust. Russel didn't make Bowe, Davis and Doucet. Bowe, Davis, and Doucet made him and that was easy to see before JaMarcus was ever drafted.

again, maybe you thought he was gonna be a bust. kudos.

most teams in the nfl, not just the raiders, thought he was well worth the high selection.

you cant say that about tjax except for one team. and we all know which one.

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acesn8s MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Here Casino cash: $10007119	Wasting top pick after top pick on DL while your QB keeps getting knocked on his ass makes many of the drafts D-. tThis is the first year that the OL has been addressed properly since Roaf left. Since then we have watched Green get knocked out, Huard get bulldozed, Collins run for his life, Croyle end up on IR repeatedly, a Thigpen love affair, Cassel get hurt in a preseason game, and a calling for another QB because it is his fault that he has only 1.8 seconds to throw a pinpoint accurate throw to a WR corp that is a bunch of other teams castoffs. But DAMMIT we need defense! __________________ Let's not take another 50 years.
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L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $3958654	you could actually make the argument that the tjax pick was even worse than the russell pick.
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