Chiefs Whitlock says Motherfuckyou Pioli! - Page 5

T-post Tom · 05-02-2010, 12:55 AM

The moral of this story? Never get between Jason and a bathroom.

Repression not good for Chiefs’ players
By JASON WHITLOCK
The Kansas City Star

Saturday afternoon, late in the Chiefs’ second minicamp practice of the day, offensive coordinator Charlie Weis screamed at one of his rookies.

I honestly have no recollection of what Weis barked. It was typical coach-speak, nothing revealing or remotely embarrassing. The kid botched an assignment, and Weis warned him to avoid another mistake.

The exchange was so mundane and inconsequential that when a member of the Chiefs’ media-relations staff instructed me and several other reporters that Weis’ comments were off the record and not to be publicized I had trouble remembering that Weis had said anything I could overhear.

But this is the era we live in now. Paranoia rules Kansas City’s professional football franchise. You’ve read my previous complaints about the air of CIA-like secrecy that general manager Scott Pioli brought with him from New England.

The air is growing thicker. And if we take a look at the Dez Bryant-Jeff Ireland controversy engulfing the Dolphins organization, we might find it offers a bit of context as to what is transpiring here.

Ireland is the general manager of the Dolphins. He is Bill Parcells’ top lieutenant. Parcells, of course, is Pioli’s father-in-law and Todd Haley’s coaching mentor. Ireland was in the news last week because it was revealed that in a predraft interview he insulted Dez Bryant by asking the rookie receiver if his mother was a prostitute.

Bryant confided to longtime NFL reporter Michael Silver that Ireland popped the indefensible question.

This is why some NFL executives and coaches despise the media. We, the media, are flawed and make mistakes that we’re sometimes reluctant to admit, but we have proven over the course of American history to be a reliable shoulder to cry on when a human being has been abused by someone or an institution with too much power.

Football executives have too much power. In the name of winning games and maintaining power, some of these men have created work environments devoid of human decency and respect.

Should we be surprised that NFL players seem to have more trouble staying within the laws of society than baseball, basketball and hockey players?

Of all the professional sports leagues, individual NFL teams have the most repressive policies regarding media access to their players.

The rules at Arrowhead remind me of visiting a federal penitentiary. Reporters are locked in a small room and have to bang on a door and ask permission to be given access to the bathroom. Saturday, rather than open up the locker room to the media, the rookies were brought to a podium one by one and allowed to interact with reporters for six to seven minutes while supervised by the media-relations staff. You could tell the players had been prepped to say as little as possible.

The rookies are no different from the veterans. They’re scared of being fined or released for saying anything that might be construed as inappropriate by Pioli. Warden Pioli’s no-snitch policy is as strictly enforced as a gang leader’s.

What is he hiding?

A lack of genuine leadership skills. Fear, intimidation and secrecy are his top leadership tools. Those tactics should support cutting-edge vision and strategy. I don’t see the vision or strategy. And I’m not backing off my earlier columns crediting the Chiefs with a productive offseason. I like the additions of Weis, Romeo Crennell, Ryan Lilja, Thomas Jones and Eric Berry.

But the obvious insecurity bubbling from the general manager’s chair could continue to undermine whatever progress the organization makes.

Let’s take a second look at the draft. I tip my hat to Pioli for acquiring high-character prospects. Upon additional review, however, it’s appropriate to wonder did the Chiefs sacrifice talent and roster needs to get kids willing to blindly submit to Pioli and Haley’s bully-leadership tactics.

Maybe the Chiefs’ draft picks wouldn’t care if Pioli asked whether their mothers were prostitutes. Or maybe they’d have the good sense not to expose Pioli for the transgression.

I don’t care how much money these young players make, they’re still mostly immature kids. A healthy percentage of them are not emotionally equipped to deal with the mental abuse heaped on them by 40- and 50-year-old egomaniacs drunk on power.

The level of secrecy being demanded at Arrowhead Stadium makes me suspect that Pioli is the NFL’s Fidel Castro.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/01...#ixzz0mkiS1y9z

**mlyonsd** · 05-02-2010, 09:50 AM

One night after a game years ago he came in to the restaurant across the street from Arrowhead, sat down at the table next to us, and had dinner with a real hot blonde.

After that I always considered Carl a prick because he didn't buy the house a round or offer to pick up my check.

stevieray · 05-02-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He was always jovial and likable when I saw him in public.

same here...

first time he saw me in costume, i told him there was a new "King" in town...he laughed and said he bequeathed his throne to me. he also spotted me out of costume at a vikings scrimmage up at camp..walked over just to shake my hand and thank me for the support.

BigChiefFan · 05-02-2010, 09:52 AM

Media doesn't necessarily mean from journalists. Pretty much EVERYTHING on the web is considered MEDIA.

Chiefshrink · 05-02-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

NFL's Fidel Castro? This article is ****ing pointless. Just a random thought that JWhit had. It's amazing the lack of filter between his brain and his column. He doesn't know what's happening because his access is restricted, so therefore the players must be suffering "mental abuse heaped on them by 40- and 50-year-old egomaniacs drunk on power."

What a ****ing asshole.

THIS!!!!!!!

**Baby Lee** · 05-02-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

That's what I'm saying, BRC. Now, of course Carl was trying to put on his best public face for these types of interactions, but...

The simple fact is that the vast majority of us can form our opinions about professional sports folks only via the media, so we're always getting a second-hand rhetorical construction.

I'm not sure I'm emotionally equipped to deal with mental abuse heaped on me by Whitlock presenting such skewed profiles of these people.

DaWolf · 05-02-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Even though they brought the "NE Model" they don't know how to run it properly. The other way to look at is they are trying to mimic rather than creating their own culture of success.

They believe in certain principles and methodologies and are trying to incorporate it in the culture here. When you hire a CEO who comes from a successful organization, it's only natural they are going to try and implement the things they believe in...

2bikemike · 05-02-2010, 11:00 AM

Didn't wade through all the posts so it may have already been said. But the way the media especially JW report, they are always stirring up a bunch of crap that really is meaningless. All in an effort to create controversy and interest in their reporting. I realize it is their job to sell their product for their employer just as its whatever teams management to try and squelch the distractions.

Marcellus · 05-02-2010, 11:03 AM

I don’t care how much money these young players make, they’re still mostly immature kids. A healthy percentage of them are not emotionally equipped to deal with the mental abuse heaped on them by 40- and 50-year-old egomaniacs drunk on power.

Yea, college coaches held their hands and wiped their asses for them all the time.

Why the hell would anyone think they hadn't been yelled and cursed at before getting to the NFL?

If yelling at young men is so morally destructive as to render them damaged I really don't understand how we have the best military in the world.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-02-2010, 11:04 AM

His premise is off, IMO.

Pioli didn't bring over this operation because he's a dictator with insecurity issues, he brought it over because he bought into the Patriot propaganda model so deeply that he has no critical thinking ability wrt: its strengths and weaknesses.

That's why this is such a paint-by-numbers approach.

ChiefsCountry · 05-02-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Sorry, Carl's one of the biggest douche's on the face of the Earth. Pioli isn't even close.

Pioli is a bigger asshole than Peterson.

-King- · 05-02-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Pioli is a bigger asshole than Peterson.

how?
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tk13 · 05-02-2010, 01:12 PM

It's really not just a Patriot thing. The entire NFL is this way, and it's getting worse. I'm sure other training camps are like this. I know the Colts are... they will lay down rules on the media. The NFL is very protective of their product.

**The Bad Guy** · 05-02-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Pioli is a bigger asshole than Peterson.

Hilarious. Not like you have any ax to grind.

penchief · 05-02-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Even though they brought the "NE Model" they don't know how to run it properly. The other way to look at is they are trying to mimic rather than creating their own culture of success.

I disagree. I see Pioli/Haley creating their own culture here. This is just another angle for Whitlock to beat a dead horse. He appears to be using the Ireland incident to find Pioli guilty by association.

**kysirsoze** · 05-02-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

no, not unless they all had the same agent.

They all basically said the same uniform statement.

They are on KCChiefs.com go watch em.

I am REALLY starting to love the DMC pick everytime I see this kid. I think he is gonna be a really special player.

I watched them all. They used the same words several times, but they are pretty common cliches. "I just want to make the team." "I'll do whatever I'm asked." "Wanna help the team however I can." Not exactly some crazy patriochief philosophy there. Just guys not wanting to say the wrong thing. I imagine every rookie in the league is saying these exact things.

05-02-2010, 12:55 AM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1747293	Whitlock says Motherfuckyou Pioli! The moral of this story? Never get between Jason and a bathroom. Repression not good for Chiefs’ players By JASON WHITLOCK The Kansas City Star Saturday afternoon, late in the Chiefs’ second minicamp practice of the day, offensive coordinator Charlie Weis screamed at one of his rookies. I honestly have no recollection of what Weis barked. It was typical coach-speak, nothing revealing or remotely embarrassing. The kid botched an assignment, and Weis warned him to avoid another mistake. The exchange was so mundane and inconsequential that when a member of the Chiefs’ media-relations staff instructed me and several other reporters that Weis’ comments were off the record and not to be publicized I had trouble remembering that Weis had said anything I could overhear. But this is the era we live in now. Paranoia rules Kansas City’s professional football franchise. You’ve read my previous complaints about the air of CIA-like secrecy that general manager Scott Pioli brought with him from New England. The air is growing thicker. And if we take a look at the Dez Bryant-Jeff Ireland controversy engulfing the Dolphins organization, we might find it offers a bit of context as to what is transpiring here. Ireland is the general manager of the Dolphins. He is Bill Parcells’ top lieutenant. Parcells, of course, is Pioli’s father-in-law and Todd Haley’s coaching mentor. Ireland was in the news last week because it was revealed that in a predraft interview he insulted Dez Bryant by asking the rookie receiver if his mother was a prostitute. Bryant confided to longtime NFL reporter Michael Silver that Ireland popped the indefensible question. This is why some NFL executives and coaches despise the media. We, the media, are flawed and make mistakes that we’re sometimes reluctant to admit, but we have proven over the course of American history to be a reliable shoulder to cry on when a human being has been abused by someone or an institution with too much power. Football executives have too much power. In the name of winning games and maintaining power, some of these men have created work environments devoid of human decency and respect. Should we be surprised that NFL players seem to have more trouble staying within the laws of society than baseball, basketball and hockey players? Of all the professional sports leagues, individual NFL teams have the most repressive policies regarding media access to their players. The rules at Arrowhead remind me of visiting a federal penitentiary. Reporters are locked in a small room and have to bang on a door and ask permission to be given access to the bathroom. Saturday, rather than open up the locker room to the media, the rookies were brought to a podium one by one and allowed to interact with reporters for six to seven minutes while supervised by the media-relations staff. You could tell the players had been prepped to say as little as possible. The rookies are no different from the veterans. They’re scared of being fined or released for saying anything that might be construed as inappropriate by Pioli. Warden Pioli’s no-snitch policy is as strictly enforced as a gang leader’s. What is he hiding? A lack of genuine leadership skills. Fear, intimidation and secrecy are his top leadership tools. Those tactics should support cutting-edge vision and strategy. I don’t see the vision or strategy. And I’m not backing off my earlier columns crediting the Chiefs with a productive offseason. I like the additions of Weis, Romeo Crennell, Ryan Lilja, Thomas Jones and Eric Berry. But the obvious insecurity bubbling from the general manager’s chair could continue to undermine whatever progress the organization makes. Let’s take a second look at the draft. I tip my hat to Pioli for acquiring high-character prospects. Upon additional review, however, it’s appropriate to wonder did the Chiefs sacrifice talent and roster needs to get kids willing to blindly submit to Pioli and Haley’s bully-leadership tactics. Maybe the Chiefs’ draft picks wouldn’t care if Pioli asked whether their mothers were prostitutes. Or maybe they’d have the good sense not to expose Pioli for the transgression. I don’t care how much money these young players make, they’re still mostly immature kids. A healthy percentage of them are not emotionally equipped to deal with the mental abuse heaped on them by 40- and 50-year-old egomaniacs drunk on power. The level of secrecy being demanded at Arrowhead Stadium makes me suspect that Pioli is the NFL’s Fidel Castro. Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/01...#ixzz0mkiS1y9z
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2bikemike Born to Ride Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NWA Casino cash: $-1174623	Didn't wade through all the posts so it may have already been said. But the way the media especially JW report, they are always stirring up a bunch of crap that really is meaningless. All in an effort to create controversy and interest in their reporting. I realize it is their job to sell their product for their employer just as its whatever teams management to try and squelch the distractions.
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $-497338	I don’t care how much money these young players make, they’re still mostly immature kids. A healthy percentage of them are not emotionally equipped to deal with the mental abuse heaped on them by 40- and 50-year-old egomaniacs drunk on power. Yea, college coaches held their hands and wiped their asses for them all the time. Why the hell would anyone think they hadn't been yelled and cursed at before getting to the NFL? If yelling at young men is so morally destructive as to render them damaged I really don't understand how we have the best military in the world.
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05-02-2010, 11:04 AM	#69
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	His premise is off, IMO. Pioli didn't bring over this operation because he's a dictator with insecurity issues, he brought it over because he bought into the Patriot propaganda model so deeply that he has no critical thinking ability wrt: its strengths and weaknesses. That's why this is such a paint-by-numbers approach. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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05-02-2010, 01:12 PM	#72
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1897500	It's really not just a Patriot thing. The entire NFL is this way, and it's getting worse. I'm sure other training camps are like this. I know the Colts are... they will lay down rules on the media. The NFL is very protective of their product.
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