Chiefs So... what are the Chiefs' QB options in 2011? - Page 5

chiefzilla1501 · 10-10-2010, 04:38 PM

I think it's safe to say that the Chiefs are good enough that they will probably not have a top 15 pick. I think with their easy schedule and a pretty decent squad, 8-8 is more than reasonable. That being said, Luck and Mallett are likely not in the cards.

So now what?

Would you trade the moon to get one of those two guys?

Who are some free agents worth looking at? The only one that comes to mind that might be interesting to look at is Shaun Hill--not a guy I'd revolve my franchise around, but a solid veteran that I'd be comfortable starting until we feel comfortable going with a rookie.

DBOSHO · 10-10-2010, 06:24 PM

At this point, id give up a top 5 pick for ryan fitzpatrick as long as i would never have to see cassel in kc ever again.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-10-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Admitting a mistake at NCB or TE isn't the same as admitting a mistake at the most important position on the field.

Especially when the guy in question was your first ever decision as a GM.

It's also the organization that didn't listen to all the fans who screamed about how badly we needed a Nose Tackle, a Left Tackle, Inside Linebacker. And an organization that didn't make any effort to bring in ex-Pats in 2010 like Jarvis Green or Ben Watson. An organization that quickly fired Pendergast and immediately after last season said that Haley can't do the OC job on his own. They've done a lot of things right and I trust that especially with better personnel guys and better assistant coaches in place, that they have the right people in place to make the right decision on Cassel.

Here's another interesting idea. If Kyle Orton doesn't get a contract by end of year, do you try to outnegotiate them for rights to his contract?

ArrowheadMagic · 10-10-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Kolb, Hill, and possibly Jackson are no worse than Matt Cassel. They aren't starting because Vick, Stafford, and Favre are a lot better than Brodie Croyle.

I'd be very interested in Kolb + draft a 2011 QB. I don't know why people are so down on Kolb. I think he could have quite a bit of upside in a Charlie Weis offense.

Kolb is Cassel, cant move an offense, why Vick even has a remote chance of being a starter. Hill in mop up duty is ok, but no evidence he can lead an offense. Jackson is why Minny lives on Favres nuts every year. None of those choices bring more hope than Cassel, and none of those guys are worth the money we would give them.

KC kid · 10-10-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Rool

I'd take a flyer on Shaun Hill if we draft a QB too.

I'd take a dump on Shaun Hill

**Bane** · 10-10-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

Kolb is Cassel, cant move an offense, why Vick even has a remote chance of being a starter. Hill in mop up duty is ok, but no evidence he can lead an offense. Jackson is why Minny lives on Favres nuts every year. None of those choices bring more hope than Cassel, and none of those guys are worth the money we would give them.

Yeah I loved how he had like 2 games where he lit it up and here comes the Kolb-ites.

MadMax · 10-10-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It's also the organization that didn't listen to all the fans who screamed about how badly we needed a Nose Tackle, a Left Tackle, Inside Linebacker. And an organization that didn't make any effort to bring in ex-Pats in 2010 like Jarvis Green or Ben Watson. An organization that quickly fired Pendergast and immediately after last season said that Haley can't do the OC job on his own. They've done a lot of things right and I trust that especially with better personnel guys and better assistant coaches in place, that they have the right people in place to make the right decision on Cassel.

Here's another interesting idea. If Kyle Orton doesn't get a contract by end of year, do you try to outnegotiate them for rights to his contract?

At this point I'd trade Matt Cassel for a Booger

**Bane** · 10-10-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

At this point I'd trade Matt Cassel for a Booger

I think at this point just getting him out of KC should be the priority.I don't care what we get for him,what it costs to cut/release him.Grab him by the collar and throw him right out the fuggn front door.

milkman · 10-10-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

Whats so funny? You want McGee who's upside is Cassel.

Tha's all I need to hear to know you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-10-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

Kolb is Cassel, cant move an offense, why Vick even has a remote chance of being a starter. Hill in mop up duty is ok, but no evidence he can lead an offense. Jackson is why Minny lives on Favres nuts every year. None of those choices bring more hope than Cassel, and none of those guys are worth the money we would give them.

Kolb has a handful of starts on his resume. Cassel has more than 2 full seasons. To say that the two are remotely similar is beyond ridiculous. Kolb was impressive when he started last year. He doesn't look great this year because his offensive line is embarrassingly bad. Don't know why two poor games (the second poor game being the result of the entire Philly gameplan centering around Vick) makes him such a lousy QB. You give Kolb our running game and the kind of protection Cassel's been getting, and he's a guaranteed upgrade over Cassel. I think there's a good chance the guy is more like Schaub than he is Cassel. Schaub wasn't exactly nails when he was finally handed a starting job either.

If Cassel isn't starting next year, there's no reason to bring him back. He's not going to restructure his contract for backup money.

Pioli Zombie · 10-10-2010, 07:08 PM

They'll cut Cassel. No way they'll pay him the bonus. They'll sign a FA QB and draft one as well. Pioli was in Cleveland when Bill benched Kosar and in NE when Bledsoe lost his job to Brady when Brady was simply a game manager. Contrary to what is said a lot around here, Pioli doesn't give a crap what people think, he cares about what's best for the team. Cassel will be gone.

**Bane** · 10-10-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

They'll cut Cassel. No way they'll pay him the bonus. They'll sign a FA QB and draft one as well. Pioli was in Cleveland when Bill benched Kosar and in NE when Bledsoe lost his job to Brady when Brady was simply a game manager. Contrary to what is said a lot around here, Pioli doesn't give a crap what people think, he cares about what's best for the team. Cassel will be gone.

Then I hope you are spot on.

suds79 · 10-10-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

They'll sign a FA QB and draft one as well.

This.

Couldn't agree more with what I think will happen.

Marcellus · 10-10-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

They'll cut Cassel. No way they'll pay him the bonus. They'll sign a FA QB and draft one as well. Pioli was in Cleveland when Bill benched Kosar and in NE when Bledsoe lost his job to Brady when Brady was simply a game manager. Contrary to what is said a lot around here, Pioli doesn't give a crap what people think, he cares about what's best for the team. Cassel will be gone.

I agree with this. Pioli won't let Cassel sink the ship.

**BossChief** · 10-10-2010, 07:22 PM

**** it....THIGPEN

Marcellus · 10-10-2010, 07:24 PM

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**** it....THIGPEN

I would almost rather have Thiggy than Croyle or Cassel. Almost.

To the pistol!

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