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Old 11-23-2010, 04:40 PM  
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Apache said shed be out by march. I assume this will be after she gets her tax monies back. Just in case im gonna post the notice of eviction jan 1.
Come on spring.

Until that time im gonna continue to square my shit away.

Thanks for the advice & thoughts on the matter Bros, it didnt fall on deaf ears.

I told both kids they didnt have to leave and could stay and that it didnt matter if they left and came back in two years or two weeks theyd always have a home at the farm if they wanted it.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:16 PM   #61
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I don't agree that she has to "find" a bottom. The only real bottom that an addict can find on her own is death. Any other bottom is imposed on her by the people around her or very often by the legal system or some other societal construct.

EDIT: But I see by the post above this one that I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know too well. I'd only say that rather than "letting" her find her bottom, it may be an option to "help" her find her bottom. She is helpless on her own at this point.
Not sure if we are talking past each other or not. This link summarizes what I have found to be true from my own experiences and the experiences of other people in similar situations.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...on.html?cat=70
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:18 PM   #62
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Not sure if we are talking past each other or not. This link summarizes what I have found to be true from my own experiences and the experiences of other people in similar situations.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...on.html?cat=70
I'm sure we're on the same page. Thanks for the link.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:23 PM   #63
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My only quibble with the info on the link — and it is very small, to be sure — is that I think it's sometimes possible for people who care about the addict to create a bottom rather than wait for the addict to blunder her way into one.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:32 PM   #64
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:37 PM   #65
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:39 PM   #66
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What's her move if you take the kids and let her walk?
No matter what it is, you can be sure that it won't be rational.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:39 PM   #67
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What's her move if you take the kids and let her walk?
Havent brought it up. Im affraid if i set her mind to that train of thought shed go hell bent for leather and use it against me.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:54 PM   #68
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Obviously, none of these decisions are in a vacuum.

If it was just you all in the world, you could save the kids while she found the bottom or whatnot.

In reality, you've got her relations, her ex, the law, and what your goals are in regards to the kids.

I know there's not a lot of common ground between you and her family. Is there any? Is there some common thinking in regards to addictions and kids during an addict's recovery?
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Obviously, none of these decisions are in a vacuum.

If it was just you all in the world, you could save the kids while she found the bottom or whatnot.

In reality, you've got her relations, her ex, the law, and what your goals are in regards to the kids.

I know there's not a lot of common ground between you and her family. Is there any? Is there some common thinking in regards to addictions and kids during an addict's recovery?
I dont trust them to be able to make a reasonable account of the situation without letting there personal psyhcosis interupt the process of kids/mom/situation/ect. getting help.
They arent any better imo. The grandma is a batshit crazy enabler to her kids and to a point the grandkids.
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:29 PM   #71
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So what are you gonna do if you find out she's seeing someone else between now and March? You still gonna let her stay? What if you meet someone and want to bring them home?
Jesus ****in christ man, he's ot to get tose kids taken care of, not his dick. Grow your ass up.
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Jesus ****in christ man, he's ot to get tose kids taken care of, not his dick. Grow your ass up.
Those kids have nothing to do with his ex finding a new guy. I can tell he still cares about her and its easy for him to say "she's free to do what she wants" but if he finds out she's seeing someone else its going to be impossible to share a house with her without it coming up all the time...
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Those kids have nothing to do with his ex finding a new guy. I can tell he still cares about her and its easy for him to say "she's free to do what she wants" but if he finds out she's seeing someone else its going to be impossible to share a house with her without it coming up all the time...
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Oh **** off, that would be difficult for anyone when there are feelings involved. When was the last time you were even in a relationship?
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