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Old 02-13-2011, 09:23 AM  
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Haley going to run conservative Offense
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Chiefs HC Todd Haley wants to run "a meat and potatoes offense" in 2011.
That's good news for Jamaal Charles' fantasy stock, and bad news for Matt Cassel's. Former OC Charlie Weis reportedly left because he wanted "to use a lot of shotgun and spread formations while jazzing up the offense," while Haley wanted to remain conservative. After it became public that Weis was leaving last season, Cassel posted a 0:5 TD-to-INT ratio in two games.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:41 PM   #61
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WTF is everyone taking this as gospel? or potential gospel? Not even a link to the opening post about where it come from. Looks like someone fantasy blog entry. Thinking of neg repping the dude just on principle of not posting the link and getting everyone worked up.

Use your brain Planet.....

Haley doesn't run a martyball offense. Never has, never will. He doesn't believe in it, he believes that calculated risk is essential to an offensive game plan. The friggin polar opposite of herm and martyball.
It lists the source as :National football post. I read it on Rotoworld.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...vative-offense

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Old 02-13-2011, 05:16 PM   #62
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That said, it does jibe with reports of the Chiefs meeting with so many offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl, etc. If they're really wanting to run the ball effectively, regardless of down and distance, they'll need to replace the center, right guard and right tackle this year, just for starters.
You could replace "run the ball effectively" with "pass the ball effectively" while leaving the rest of your statement intact and it could still be considered a valid analysis.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:23 PM   #63
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Story is horseshit. Like Haley is really known to be conservative. He may have his faults, but the guy has steel balls when it comes to playcalling.

Like others have said, if he doesnt want Cassel, then i can see an issue where we do what we did last year. We all know Cassel has issues and at times can make the good throw, but Haley is kinda stuck with him for now.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:36 PM   #64
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Story is horseshit. Like Haley is really known to be conservative. He may have his faults, but the guy has steel balls when it comes to playcalling.

Like others have said, if he doesnt want Cassel, then i can see an issue where we do what we did last year. We all know Cassel has issues and at times can make the good throw, but Haley is kinda stuck with him for now.
One thing Laz has right, even with those steel balls, Haley did call about 100 more rushes than passes in '09.

The question is, will he have more faith in Cassel in '11 than he did '09?

Will Cassel continue his progression from mid season last year, or continue to regress, as he did late last season.

What the Chiefs do on offense in '11 is entirely dependent on the answer to that question.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:38 PM   #65
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One thing Laz has right, even with those steel balls, Haley did call about 100 more rushes than passes in '09.

The question is, will he have more faith in Cassel in '11 than he did '09?

Will Cassel continue his progression from mid season last year, or continue to regress, as he did late last season.

What the Chiefs do on offense in '11 is entirely dependent on the answer to that question.
I think 2009 was due to the shitty team Cassel had around him. 2009 there was no win for anyone. It was going to be miserable and everyone knew it. Coaches, Front Office, Players, Fans and even homers.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:42 PM   #66
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Yeah its pretty hilarious going into last year everyone knew the Chiefs would be bad no matter who the coach was. But after that its Haley sucks and next year will be the same as that year. This fan base has to have some of the most stupid fans.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:45 PM   #67
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I think 2009 was due to the shitty team Cassel had around him. 2009 there was no win for anyone. It was going to be miserable and everyone knew it. Coaches, Front Office, Players, Fans and even homers.
The point is, Haley is going to do what he believes gives him the best chance for success.

If he feels that he has to put more emphasis on running the ball, then that's what he's going to do.

Our O-Line is still a weak link, and Bowe is the only real receiver.

And most importantly, Cassel is still a question mark.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:48 PM   #68
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It lists the source as :National football post. I read it on Rotoworld.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...vative-offense

Geeesh, settle down. My Rep got wiped out in the "Great rep heist" I dont need any of your help with that. Hehe
I have no idea what a national football post is, looks to me to be some blogger site. No link in a post like this is an epic fail.

This isn't news or even a sourced rumor. Just some dudes idea of whats going to happen. We all have ideas what will happen. Why should we care what this one blogger thinks? Why does it warrant its own thread? Have they been right in the past? Well respected?
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:55 PM   #69
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I have no idea what a national football post is, looks to me to be some blogger site. No link in a post like this is an epic fail.

This isn't news or even a sourced rumor. Just some dudes idea of whats going to happen. We all have ideas what will happen. Why should we care what this one blogger thinks? Why does it warrant its own thread? Have they been right in the past? Well respected?
I dont go there, but I do read Rotoworld, a very respected site. MANY threads are started with information from Rotoworld. They are the first to report a lot of information. Doesnt mean its right but when did that ever stop someone from posting it...
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Haley doesn't run a martyball offense. Never has, never will. He doesn't believe in it, he believes that calculated risk is essential to an offensive game plan. The friggin polar opposite of herm and martyball.
link? Source? Anything besides pulling some 'gospel' out of your ass?
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I have no idea what a national football post is, looks to me to be some blogger site. No link in a post like this is an epic fail.

This isn't news or even a sourced rumor. Just some dudes idea of whats going to happen. We all have ideas what will happen. Why should we care what this one blogger thinks? Why does it warrant its own thread? Have they been right in the past? Well respected?
National Football Post is run by former NFL GM Michael Lombardi and there are some very good writers that contribute to that site. Dan Pompei, a Chicago based football reporter for decades, wrote that report.

He used to write for the Sporting News as well. The guy is definitely an insider.

Oh, and I previously linked to the report.
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Without knowing the source of this report, it's difficult to ascertain its validity.
truth... we don't KNOW either way
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National Football Post is run by former NFL GM Michael Lombardi and there are some very good writers that contribute to that site. Dan Pompei, a Chicago based football reporter for decades, wrote that report.

He used to write for the Sporting News as well. The guy is definitely an insider.

Oh, and I previously linked to the report.
Thank You.

I was just posting a story I read about the Chiefs, I didnt know we were supposed to post the authors biography as well. Hehe
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