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Old 11-08-2011, 12:01 AM  
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Pioli has praise for Haley

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Coach Todd Haley will be moving into the final year of his contract next year, and while general manager Scott Pioli wouldn’t say whether the Chiefs would extend his contract, his comments seemed to indicate they would.

Pioli praised Haley on Monday in an interview with The Kansas City Star.

“I think he’s doing a good job of growing into the job,” Pioli said. “He’s adjusted well to changes in personnel, changes in roster. He’s adjusted well to staff changes. This team has continued to evolve and continued to develop. Players have developed well. That’s Todd and the whole coaching staff.”

Echoing comments made recently by Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt, Pioli also said he has a good relationship with Haley.

“I think it’s a good working relationship. I really do,” Pioli said. “We’re both focused on the same thing, which is winning football games.”

Asked whether they work well enough together to allow the Chiefs to win a Super Bowl, Pioli said yes.

“Absolutely,” Pioli said. “We talk often. Our approach hasn’t changed in terms of the way and the amount of communication from two years ago, a year ago. It’s the same. It hasn’t changed in terms of the volume or anything else.”

Pioli said he meets with Haley regularly during the season to discuss roster needs for upcoming games. The 4-4 Chiefs are tied for first place with Oakland and San Diego in the AFC West and play the 3-5 Broncos on Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium.

“We make sure we have solid communication, particularly right after a game, the Monday and the Tuesday,” Pioli said. “We evaluate performance and where we’re at as far as health and where we are for the upcoming game. We’ll talk about the game plan for the upcoming game and then what we’re going to do as far as roster makeup.”

The Chiefs have a regular-season record of 18-22 halfway through Haley’s third season. They finished 4-12 in 2009, his first year with the Chiefs, and then last season went 10-6 and won their first division title in seven years.

This year, the Chiefs started 0-3, losing their first two games by a combined 79 points. By the time they finished their second game of the season, a 48-3 defeat at Detroit, the Chiefs had lost safety Eric Berry, running back Jamaal Charles and tight end Tony Moeaki for the year with knee injuries.

But the Chiefs rallied to win four straight games before falling to 4-4 with Sunday’s 31-3 loss to previously winless Miami.

Pioli indicated he wasn’t tempted to fire Haley or otherwise get discouraged when the Chiefs started the season so poorly.


“I didn’t think that was who we were when we were 0-2, and that’s why I’m not surprised when we were able to continue to improve and begin to play good football,” Pioli said. “What you don’t want to do is get caught up in the dramatic swing of any one game or two games. I don’t think you can evaluate that small a portion of the season. That’s one-eighth of the season.

“I believe we have a good football team and a good coaching staff. We have a good, young football team that is continuing to develop.”

Haley, at his news conference Monday, called the first half of the season “adventurous” for the Chiefs. They’ve been outscored by 70 points even though they’ve won as many games as they’ve lost.

“It’s been a different set of encyclopedias from the start,” Haley said. “Everybody’s had the same challenges, with the lack of offseason and some of those things. I think it has led to a unique year thus far. I said that in training camp, that I thought it would be a wild ride, and it hasn’t disappointed.”

Haley said he hoped the Chiefs’ performances would be more even over the season’s second half. Including the game against Miami, the Chiefs have lost three games by four or more touchdowns.

“Consistency is the key to being a good team or a great team,” Haley said. “Very rarely do you see a team that’s inconsistent be one of the last teams standing. Consistency is going to be one of those things that we’re really going to work hard on in all areas.

“We’ve got a team that’s still developing and still getting better and is still a work in progress. I’m excited about these guys.”
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:43 AM   #61
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or give us a real coach and we would be playoff caliber.
What exactly were we last year?
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:45 AM   #62
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What exactly were we last year?
same thing can be said about Cassel
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:49 AM   #63
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Ya, you're right.

We need a great QB to carry our shitty coaching.


i got an idea ... why don't we try and do both, get a better QB and better coaching. Oh ya, nobody wants to talk about that ... only Cassel.

people all over the league are playing with less than franchise type QB's but that's the only thing people around here can bitch about.
None of those teams are going anywhere either. And I did talk about the coaching phuqtard. Like I said, I see no problem with any facet of the offensive coaching other than OL. Can you really argue that? Is it the coaches fault Cassel can't read a defense? No, it's the fact that he didn't play in college and learn the same way everyone else does.

Karlos Dansby was even quoted in saying that they could tell very early on that Cassel was confused and didn't know where they were coming from, so they kept the blitz coming all day.
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:51 AM   #64
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same thing can be said about Cassel
So you're happy with just the playoffs? Happy with the QB who sucked ass in the playoffs? Hard to win when your QB sucks that much ass in a game. 9-18 for 70 yards and 3 picks. Sounds like bad coaching and not the qb to me.
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:51 AM   #65
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There you go.

Chan and Weis are two of the best OCs anyone would love to have. Haley ran them off.
Haley booted Chan. Weis walked on his own accord. As soon as he had an offer to coach with his son his mind was made up. You're just being silly to think otherwise.
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:53 AM   #66
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Weis walked on his own accord. As soon as he had an offer to coach with his son his mind was made up.
I don't buy it.

If you don't believe that Haley was a reason for pushing Weis to leave then you are being ....
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Sounds like bad coaching and not the qb to me.
If Haley coached better hot routes, Cassel would have had 300 yards and 4 TDs.
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If Haley coached better hot routes, Cassel would have had 300 yards and 4 TDs.
That's true.

You remember the plays when Haley threw those picks?

What's that? No you say?

Oh, i guess i must have been ill informed. I thought Haley threw the ball to the defenders.
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I also believe that Haley ditched Chan b/c of Chan's belief in changing your system to your players. If he did that, the system changed every year and it gets harder to have a consistent product on the field.

Look at the teams belief in the defense, from Pioli, to Haley, to Crennel, to NE, PITT, BAL. Install a system, and as long as your players perform within that system, all is well, if they stray its good for nothing.
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I don't buy it.

If you don't believe that Haley was a reason for pushing Weis to leave then you are being ....
Well, I'm pretty sure the excerpt from the book written about Belicheat and his influence on the game by the dude who followed within our organization all last year said this fairly clearly.
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So you're happy with just the playoffs? Happy with the QB who sucked ass in the playoffs? Hard to win when your QB sucks that much ass in a game. 9-18 for 70 yards and 3 picks. Sounds like bad coaching and not the qb to me.
Why do persons such as yourself continue this straw man argument? Laz said earlier that it he doesn't like Cassel and realizes Cassel is a problem. When he questions Haley, the rebuttal automatically becomes "you're happy with Cassel ...."
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Weis walked on his own accord. As soon as he had an offer to coach with his son his mind was made up. You're just being silly to think otherwise.
I don't believe it.

After only 8 months, Weis went from coaching in the NFL for 5.2 million a year to being an O.C. in college for 750k a year along with recruiting and all that shit.

How bad would a job have to be to get you to take a 5 million dollar per year pay cut?

no ****ing way
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Well, I'm pretty sure the excerpt from the book written about Belicheat and his influence on the game by the dude who followed within our organization all last year said this fairly clearly.
I am also fairly sure that you can't use/find anything on that book that would put BB and his boys in a bad light.
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