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Old 11-08-2011, 12:46 PM   #1
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That is what the sponsors ask about.
What demographic do you suggest that would be more representative?
30 to 44 white males who make between 25 and 40k a year is the NBA target demographic.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:41 PM   #2
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I would rather watch someone play NBA Jams.

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Old 11-08-2011, 01:09 PM   #3
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I love that its gone. More time in the media for college hoops, NHL, and other sports. The NBA is outdated and mundane. I liked it at one time, but its unwatchable anymore. It's time as a major sport has passed. It's nothing but a soap opera of egos, dunks, and 5000 whistles a night
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:10 PM   #4
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I love that its gone. More time in the media for college hoops, NHL, and other sports. The NBA is outdated and mundane. I liked it at one time, but its unwatchable anymore. It's time as a major sport has passed. It's nothing but a soap opera of egos, dunks, and 5000 whistles a night
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:51 PM   #5
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There are those that will never like the NBA....fine. But I'd be curious to hear from those that were once NBA fans -- what's different about the league today than when you were a fan?

I believe the NBA is/was moving into a really exciting phase, with great teams, great players who do things the right way, and bad guys (Miami Heat) to play the villain role.

I miss it, but I'm a basketball junkie and enjoy watching the best players in the world.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:53 PM   #6
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There are those that will never like the NBA....fine. But I'd be curious to hear from those that were once NBA fans -- what's different about the league today than when you were a fan?

I believe the NBA is/was moving into a really exciting phase, with great teams, great players who do things the right way, and bad guys (Miami Heat) to play the villain role.

I miss it, but I'm a basketball junkie and enjoy watching the best players in the world.
The biggest problem is the length of the season. Players just can't give max effort for that many games. That isn't new, though.

The newer problem is that there are SO many teams that just can't compete. All of the stars go to one of a handful of markets. People bitch about that in baseball, but there are too many players on a baseball team for it to matter as much. When there are only 8 players that matter, 1 or 2 players can really shift the balance.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:05 PM   #7
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There are those that will never like the NBA....fine. But I'd be curious to hear from those that were once NBA fans -- what's different about the league today than when you were a fan?

I believe the NBA is/was moving into a really exciting phase, with great teams, great players who do things the right way, and bad guys (Miami Heat) to play the villain role.

I miss it, but I'm a basketball junkie and enjoy watching the best players in the world.
I was a huge NBA fan as a kid in the 80s through the MJ era. Used to sneak downstairs after bedtime at night to be able to watch the playoffs between the Showtime Lakers and the Bird Celtics. Before that I rooted for Dr. J and his 6ers to get a ring for the Doc. Moses Malone, Cheeks, Toney, Jones and Jones along with Julius were great to watch play. Bad Boy Celtics, Malone & Stock in Utah were great to watch. Clyde and the Nigerian in Houston, even the Cavs were all part of a great time in the NBA.

Michael came just in time to take over for Magic and Larry. Fantastic ball, great rivalries, team play and hard D.

The minute MJ left was the day the music died and the song hasn't been close to the same since.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:46 PM   #8
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The minute MJ left was the day the music died and the song hasn't been close to the same since.
I'll admit there was a lull after MJ for a good number of years but I don't know, 5-8 years ago the league really started to be infused with some special players.

I'd argue the talent is far better today than vs the Jordan era.

When I think of the Jordan era and great players, I think...

Jordan, Barkley, Drexler, Ewing, Malone, Shawn Kemp for a short period.... Starting to run out already.

Shoot now in the league you have a few guys with Jordan like skills. Obviously not Jordan but amazing game.

Bryant, James, Wade, Durant, Rose, Nowitzki, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Tim Duncan (although getting up there).

I don't know what's not to like.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:51 PM   #9
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I'll admit there was a lull after MJ for a good number of years but I don't know, 5-8 years ago the league really started to be infused with some special players.

I'd argue the talent is far better today than vs the Jordan era.

When I think of the Jordan era and great players, I think...

Jordan, Barkley, Drexler, Ewing, Malone, Shawn Kemp for a short period.... Starting to run out already.

Shoot now in the league you have a few guys with Jordan like skills. Obviously not Jordan but amazing game.

Bryant, James, Wade, Durant, Rose, Nowitzki, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Tim Duncan (although getting up there).

I don't know what's not to like.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for today's game but if your knowledge of the talent during the NBA's peak consists of "Jordan, Barkley, Drexler, Ewing, Malone, Shawn Kemp" you should probably just not comment on it.

No need to comment on "now in the league you have a few guys with Jordan like skills."
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:57 PM   #10
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I appreciate your enthusiasm for today's game but if your knowledge of the talent during the NBA's peak consists of "Jordan, Barkley, Drexler, Ewing, Malone, Shawn Kemp" you should probably just not comment on it.

No need to comment on "now in the league you have a few guys with Jordan like skills."
I stand by that the talent is better now. And think about what I said before you talk. I didn't say guys were as good as Jordan. I said had similar skills and amazing game.

If you can't see how Kobe Bryant's game is similar to Jordans, then you just don't get basketball. Maybe it's best that you're not that into the NBA anymore because you obviously just don't get it.
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:28 PM   #11
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I'll admit there was a lull after MJ for a good number of years but I don't know, 5-8 years ago the league really started to be infused with some special players.

I'd argue the talent is far better today than vs the Jordan era.

When I think of the Jordan era and great players, I think...

Jordan, Barkley, Drexler, Ewing, Malone, Shawn Kemp for a short period.... Starting to run out already.

Shoot now in the league you have a few guys with Jordan like skills. Obviously not Jordan but amazing game.

Bryant, James, Wade, Durant, Rose, Nowitzki, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Tim Duncan (although getting up there).

I don't know what's not to like.
Totally agree. People who think that the NBA of today doesn't have extreme talent they really aren't watching the game.

The downside of the NBA is as evenfall stated there is no parity in the league which hopefully if the CBA ever gets signed that will take care of that problem.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:50 PM   #12
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I was a huge NBA fan as a kid in the 80s through the MJ era. Used to sneak downstairs after bedtime at night to be able to watch the playoffs between the Showtime Lakers and the Bird Celtics. Before that I rooted for Dr. J and his 6ers to get a ring for the Doc. Moses Malone, Cheeks, Toney, Jones and Jones along with Julius were great to watch play. Bad Boy Celtics, Malone & Stock in Utah were great to watch. Clyde and the Nigerian in Houston, even the Cavs were all part of a great time in the NBA.

Michael came just in time to take over for Magic and Larry. Fantastic ball, great rivalries, team play and hard D.

The minute MJ left was the day the music died and the song hasn't been close to the same since.
Nailed it.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:23 PM   #13
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Nailed it.
Except it was the Bad Boy Pistons. Unless that's what he meant was the Pistons vs the Celtics. I don't know.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:32 PM   #14
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I enjoyed the championhip series last year, it was rewarding to watch that heartless phony choke yet again.

And i may or may not care about the next one, either way i wont lose any sleep, the nba has just lost something for me, not even 100% sure what it is.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:40 PM   #15
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Except it was the Bad Boy Pistons. Unless that's what he meant was the Pistons vs the Celtics. I don't know.
Shit, thanks for catching that. Meant to stick Celtics in after Pistons and left out the Piston part. Bill Laimbeer ought to smack me around for that.
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