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Simplicity · 03-14-2013, 09:20 AM

Heard this from now almost everyone associated with ESPN and some guy from NFL Network. Cant provide any links because they were all on live TV. So this leads to ask ... "Why are the (experts) all saying we have the best offseaon, but the (fans) think its almost as bad as 2009?"

Mr. Laz · 03-14-2013, 10:36 AM

media types are hedging their bets

1. 2-win teams generally have a easier time of making a 5-win improvement than a 8-win team

2. Chiefs underachieved last year and have talent, so people assume they will be better with better coaching anyway.

Next year when we go 8-8ish the media will pat themselves on the back about their correct praise of the Chiefs offseason moves even though the Chiefs should of gone 8-8 last year.

Setsuna · 03-14-2013, 10:37 AM

When did y'all find out the trade was for another second? And I thought it was conditional.

ceebz · 03-14-2013, 10:38 AM

If the over/under on Chiefs wins in 2013 is eight, I'm taking the under. I see no more than five or six wins.

KC_Lee · 03-14-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. SyphiLaz

media types are hedging their bets

1. 2-win teams generally have a easier time of making a 5-win improvement than a 8-win team

2. Chiefs underachieved last year and have talent, so people assume they will be better with better coaching anyway.

Next year when we go 8-8ish the media will pat themselves on the back about their correct praise of the Chiefs offseason moves even though the Chiefs should of gone 8-8 last year.

Add in the last place schedule KC will have and 8 - 8 / 9 - 7 / 10 - 6 is easy to obtain. And if history hold true we will make the playoffs this year and miss them the next year. Theyby holding the KC-SF-QB pattern that was started in the 90's.

**Rausch** · 03-14-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ceebz

If the over/under on Chiefs wins in 20123 is eight, I'm taking the under. I see no more than five or six wins.

I'd bet that.

I'd guess 7-9 right now.

If the line was 10 wins I'd front a paycheck...

**jAZ** · 03-14-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy

Not to be a dick, but how do you figure it's the smart bet?

I'd take the field over any team, including the Chiefs in any year. So betting on the Chiefs to win it all is a bad bet.

But I'd put my money on Peterson, Pioli, Dorsey or any NFL GM to make the better choices in putting together a franchise (including all of the required decisions on players, coaches, caps numbers, etc) than the excessively serious fans we have here.

This place is a bubble filled with vocal posters driving a circular conversation that's unlinked, IMO, from the actual complexities of decision making that an actual GM has to wade through in figuring out how to be better, not only than you were yesterday, but also better than the other 31 GM's out there building their franchises.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-14-2013, 10:41 AM

Alex Smith seems unlikely to meet the esculators in his contract or the trade agreement(?). He has only played two 16 games seasons in 8 years. He might be easily dumped even. : pray: Brandon FLowers is about the only 2nd rounder of note for the CHiefs in years.

**notorious** · 03-14-2013, 10:43 AM

The offensive scheme is going to be night and day different. We will actually see wide open receivers and screens that work next year.

Reid's offensive mind alone will net 4-6 more wins.

Mr. Laz · 03-14-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Add in the last place schedule KC will have and 8 - 8 / 9 - 7 / 10 - 6 is easy to obtain. And if history hold true we will make the playoffs this year and miss them the next year. Theyby holding the KC-SF-QB pattern that was started in the 90's.

Chiefs are odds on favorite to show improvement next year so the praise is not surprising.

Now if someone wants to step-up and say the Chiefs are now good enough to win in the playoffs then come talk to me. Otherwise you are just spouting the obvious.

Unless coaching makes a huge difference we are now back to the 7-9 to 9-7 zone.

**Rausch** · 03-14-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

The offensive scheme is going to be night and day different.

Not so much...

**ptlyon** · 03-14-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

The offensive scheme is going to be night and day different. We will actually see wide open receivers and screens that work next year.

Reid's offensive mind alone will net 4-6 more wins.

Wait. All of our receivers (other than Bowe) supposedly can't run routes or get open.

So how can this be true?

Mr. Laz · 03-14-2013, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

The offensive scheme is going to be night and day different. We will actually see wide open receivers and screens that work next year.

Reid's offensive mind alone will net 4-6 more wins.

and Alex Smith will bring another 1 or 2 wins

7-9 to 9-7 area

With the 12th pick of the 2014 draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select .........

**notorious** · 03-14-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Wait. All of our receivers (other than Bowe) supposedly can't run routes or get open.

So how can this be true?

Don't get me started on Baldwin.

Please don't.....

mcaj22 · 03-14-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Wait. All of our receivers (other than Bowe) supposedly can't run routes or get open.

So how can this be true?

that's why they signed Fasano and Avery, two guys that actually know how to get spacing at the NFL level unlike our unproven farts that still havent proved shit

Skyy God · 03-14-2013, 10:54 AM

Chiefs were mentioned briefly on SVP and Russillo..... gist was we overpaid for mid-level talent.

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