Peter King: Chiefs will listen to trade offers for Albert

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Duno if this is a Q...and it is from King, but hello LT at #1.

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Not sure if this is big, breaking news but Peter King says Chiefs will listen to trade offers for Albert http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...ack/?mobile=no …

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by ILChief

I've thought this was likely for awhile. If they planned on keeping Albert long term he would have been locked up while they were throwing money around like candy

You can't lock people up unilaterally.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Guru

Tackles are not game changers. They don't win games for you. They don't take games over.

With pick 1:1 you get a game changer or you trade back.

I understand this statement but it is not totally accurate. No we don't see LT's out there making big plays, but if your LT is shutting down the other teams best Passrusher, removing one of the other teams best players he is "taking over a game".
Derrick Thomas was a game changer because of what he could do to the QB. Any LT that can shut down a player like Derrick are game changers as well. We just don't see it like that because they are not in a "playmaker" position and or there is not a stats category to show their importance in the same manner.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

I'd rather go with the guy who has already proven himself in the NFL.

This seems so obvious.

[The Franchise]

I guarantee you that the Chiefs were waiting to see what someone like Jake Long got in FA. That pretty much sets the value for Albert.....and now if they want....they could offer him a little more money. Somewhere between Long's deal and Brown's deal is fine with me.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I understand this statement but it is not totally accurate. No we don't see LT's out there making big plays, but if your LT is shutting down the other teams best Passrusher, removing one of the other teams best players he is "taking over a game".
Derrick Thomas was a game changer because of what he could do to the QB. Any LT that can shut down a player like Derrick are game changers as well. We just don't see it like that because they are not in a "playmaker" position and or there is not a stats category to show their importance in the same manner.

How many times per year does a team face a Derrick Thomas caliber pass rusher?

The number of times in the season a team needs an elite LT instead of just an adequate one are few.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I understand this statement but it is not totally accurate. No we don't see LT's out there making big plays, but if your LT is shutting down the other teams best Passrusher, removing one of the other teams best players he is "taking over a game".
Derrick Thomas was a game changer because of what he could do to the QB. Any LT that can shut down a player like Derrick are game changers as well. We just don't see it like that because they are not in a "playmaker" position and or there is not a stats category to show their importance in the same manner.

That's great....until you factor in that a team can just move their best pass rusher to the other side and negate your LT.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

That's great....until you factor in that a team can just move their best pass rusher to the other side and negate your LT.

OMG! Now we need a #1 RT too!

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Fish

OMG! Now we need a #1 RT too!

And I wouldn't be surprised if that's what they're doing.

Alex Smith takes a TON of sacks...and that was with the offensive line that the 49ers had (3 1st round picks).

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

That's great....until you factor in that a team can just move their best pass rusher to the other side and negate your LT.

I think that's why LT money hasn't gone up as much as some LTs had hoped it would, while RT money is closing the gap. With the way TEs are more involved as receivers and moving from side to side these days, as opposed to usually being in tight on the right side where they can help the RT, pass protection is becoming a more important RT skill.

[ChiefGator]

Originally Posted by Fish

OMG! Now we need a #1 RT too!

But what if they move their pass rusher between your guard and center!!

[ChiefGator]

Originally Posted by jspchief

How many times IN THE PLAYOFFS does a team face a Derrick Thomas caliber pass rusher?

Fixed your question.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Fixed your question.

Thank you. It's about beating playoff teams in the playoffs.

Unfortunately, this also begs the question "How often does a team with two elite tackles and a mediocre QB beat an elite pass rusher in the playoffs?"

Ge-no! Ge-no!

[Fish]

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

But what if they move their pass rusher between your guard and center!!

All picks to OLine!!

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

But what if they move their pass rusher between your guard and center!!

The reason tackles, especially LTs, have to be so good at what they do is because they're on the end where all they have outside of them is open space. Guards and Centers just have to be a brick in the wall. RTs have typically been able to get away with lesser pass blocking skills because they have an extra guy, the TE, on their outside who can help solidify that edge. You probably already know this, but just in case you didn't, there it is.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

So why didn't he say according to Dorsey or a source? Because maybe he is afraid to put words in his mouth?

Also, why in the world would Dorsey tell anyone they will listen to trade offers for Albert? That would severly damage their trade down potential if teams knew they were without a doubt not taking a QB.

Diesnt make any sense.

Dorsey would say they are listening to trade offers BECAUSE THEY ARE. I don't like Peter Pioli any more than the rest of us, but I doubt he would outright lie about something like this.