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Old 05-17-2013, 12:06 AM  
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10 Keys to Success or Failure for the 2013 Chiefs

I think this upcoming season is filled with as much intrigue as any in the last 10+ years because of all the uncertainty at so many positions. I truly believe this team can be anywhere from 5-11 to 13-3 depending on how these factors play out...

1) Alex Myths ability to handle the workload that Andy Reids offense will demand. If he is able to continue the efficiency he had when be was throwing less in SF, but add to his attempts...he has a chance to help us win a lot against our schedule. Alex was on pace for a 26 touchdown and 3500 yard year in an offense that he would have been around 425 pass attempts the whole year and Andy will probably want another 100 pass attempts to be added to those. If he can't handle it and Andy Reid scales things back a notch we will still end up 7-9/8-8...but if he IS able to handle it and maintains the effectiveness he had last year with increased attempts, he could have a big year and guide us to a lot of wins. No doubt.

2) The defenses ability to take advantage of the scheme that should be predicated on getting more pressure than in years past by attacking more and sitting back less. Our linebacking corps are gonna straight up rape faces in this scheme. The players ability to change their mentality in how to play defense across the board is a huge factor...especially how soon they "get it" because this team can't afford to get into an early hole in the win loss column.

3) The usage of Eric Berry. I put this high on my list for a reason...the guy has been used incorrectly all three years in KC and if he is used correctly he should be an absolute game changer. This "third linebacker in the nickel" stuff needs to get gone and stay gone. This guy destroyed worlds at Tenneesee by taking the ball away and making huge hits and when Kiffen got there, be
changed all that and Eric has been used that way ever since. The way we have used him has completely nullified his playmaking ability and speed in the center of the field. We need to have that ballhawk back there intercepting passes and taking them to the house, not playing in the box most the game.

4) Sean Smith and Dunte Robinsons ability to play effective coverage. This is another situation similar to that of Alex Myth IMO...in that it can go drastically good or bad. I think we will score some points this year and those two will be under pressure. These two can make the secondary a strength or weakness.

5) Jon Baldwin taking to coaching and starting to realize his potential. This kid has amazing upside, but at the moment he looks like a bust. I think this is a career defining year for him. If he is able to become a solid #2 that can make some plays for us, this offense should start to be fun to watch. If not, this will likely be his last year in KC.

6) The fringe guys from the last two years drafts starting to show up and play at an effective level. Guys like Powe, Hudson, Allen, Bailey, Stephenson and Brown. All of those guys have potential to be quality starters or valuable role players if they can take to new coaching. They also have the potential to all need replaced for varius reasons.

7) Andy Reid molding his playcalling to fit the talent we have on board and not trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I think he can push Alex Myth to 500 pass attempts, but not much more. If we can have a 50:50 split or maybe 55:45 in favor of the pass, I think we can win games...if be tries to throw it 35 times per game...I'm not sure we can be as effective that way.

8) The tight ends living up to their billing. We have a chance to have one of the best TE groups in the NFL if Kelce and Fasano can bring to the field what they do on paper. This Kelce kid is huge and moves very well and seems to have very good hands and instincts...a real player if he can develop his skills and stay out of trouble. It speaks to the talent of the position group that Moeaki may be the third tight end. They should be able to help seal the edge with Eric Fisher and, a few plays later, catching a couple big yardage passes. If Kelce is as good as some think, we may really have something to see on offense.

9) The defensive line being able to generate pressure and get a push. Guys like Jackson, Bailey, Poe, Powe and Devito need to be able to take advantage of linemen trying to keep the linebackers in check. If we can get this position group to play with some intensity, this defense could be just nasty. If they aren't able to do so, teams will control the LOS on us and dictate the tempo.

10) Someone stepping up on special teams and becoming a playmaker. We have the coach that can design the plays to help our return game, but someone needs to step up and fill the role of Arenas while giving us some homerun ability. Maybe Wylie will be that guy...sure would be nice to have a threat as a returner again, it's been awhile.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:00 AM   #61
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Yet, you, like the dumbass you are, are calling him "Badass" before he ever takes a snap for the Chiefs, and in your halfwitted stupor probably can't not see the hypocracy in that.
Can't you see I did that to needle people like you that have rode he ass and treated him worse than a child molester-lol



I hope to hell he is bad ass- but haveing the fumbling turnover machines out of town that we have had under center- by default will make him look like a badass. Just so he doesnt fumble the game away like cashole did against the ravens. That is automatically a 50% increase in wins-LOL

I am sure you and most on here hope he sucks so you can say- see we were right and really call him some horrible names- pretty pathetic from so called chiefs fans.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:04 AM   #62
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So when he starts to suck like so many retreads before him I wont expect you to call him names because you are above every one else on this bored.
I never once said I was above anyone. Smith was benched for a rookie when he was having a good year. He handled it with class. He cant help what we have had in the past or that he is the next in a long list of 9ers QBs to come here.

If you really think he deserves to be called puke and a shit stain- that is just uncalled for.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:08 AM   #63
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Alex Smith among the bottom 5 in red zone efficiency over the last two years, which is one of the reason their kicker broke the record for FGs in 2011.

Assuming Smith makes the play that wins that SB is Halfwit moronacy at it's finest.
Guess we will never know if a Vet with a ton more expierence makes 5 yards in 4 plays. But we do know Kape did not.
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I never once said I was above anyone. Smith was benched for a rookie when he was having a good year. He handled it with class. He cant help what we have had in the past or that he is the next in a long list of 9ers QBs to come here.

If you really think he deserves to be called puke and a shit stain- that is just uncalled for.


He is puke & or shit stain until he proves on the field other wise. I hope he proves he is better than that. I hope he proves to be better than TrInt Green. I hope he proves to be better than any quarterback we have had the last 40 years.


Prove it on the field then he can be deserved to be called his name.

No not his fault blame the franchise for not learning from past mistakes.
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He is puke & or shit stain until he proves on the field other wise. I hope he proves he is better than that. I hope he proves to be better than TrInt Green. I hope he proves to be better than any quarterback we have had the last 40 years.


Prove it on the field then he can be deserved to be called his name.

No not his fault blame the franchise for not learning from past mistakes.
So until then why don't you Alex haters just start your own thread. Call him puke, ghey, pos, ect, all day every day- and stop ruining every ****ing thread on here with your mindless babble on how bad he is going to suck. Not to mention calling everyone else names if they have a shread of hope the Chiefs can be Much improved with a descent QB and excelllent leader under center for once in a Long time.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:14 AM   #66
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Did I call you names when you just posted Donald has more ceiling than Fisher and Albert.

What a stoopid post. Fisher has not even played a game. We have seen what Donald can do and he is not even close as good as Albert- not to mention a #1 pick. He you like the kid- no prob- and you HOPE he is going to be better than the other two. Highly unlikely.

But that is your opinion- based on Zero facts- but it is your opinion.

Most people on here including my self respect your opinion- most of the time you are spot on. So why don't you be more of an example when it comes to Smith. He is are QB now- and the trade, the past ect is over. You dont have to like it- or support him or the chiefs. But why be a negative classless asshole and attack anyone that hopes he brings some wins to our team.

Have some class for once Milk. Or just
After my initial response to the trade, my posts have been pretty fair and objective, IMO.

I believe that Smith will struggle mightily in Andy Reid's system if Reid and Pederson fail to adjust the system to mask Smith's limitations.

I also don't believe that Alex Smith's efficiency will take a hit if the system is adjusted, even if he attempts substantially more passes than he has in his last season and a 1/2.

I believe that the Chiefs can win a lot of games with Smith at QB is a syatem adapted to fit his strengths.

However, if the system isn't adjusted, this could easily be a 5 win team, at best, if Smith is asked to do the things he isn't capable of doing.

But at the end of the day, I don't believe there's any way that Alex Smith can lead a team to a SB with his limitations.

And when it's all said and done, I am too ****ing old to care about winning a lot of games if none of it leads to winning a SB.
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So until then why don't you Alex haters just start your own thread. Call him puke, ghey, pos, ect, all day every day- and stop ruining every ****ing thread on here with your mindless babble on how bad he is going to suck. Not to mention calling everyone else names if they have a shread of hope the Chiefs can be Much improved with a descent QB and excelllent leader under center for once in a Long time.


I did start my own thread..

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271151


Any one can feel free to come into that thread and call Alex Smith what ever you want.
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I never once said I was above anyone. Smith was benched for a rookie when he was having a good year. He handled it with class. He cant help what we have had in the past or that he is the next in a long list of 9ers QBs to come here.

If you really think he deserves to be called puke and a shit stain- that is just uncalled for.
You are a ****ing dumbass. And kapernick was a second year player
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After my initial response to the trade, my posts have been pretty fair and objective, IMO.

I believe that Smith will struggle mightily in Andy Reid's system if Reid and Pederson fail to adjust the system to mask Smith's limitations.

I also don't believe that Alex Smith's efficiency will take a hit if the system is adjusted, even if he attempts substantially more passes than he has in his last season and a 1/2.

I believe that the Chiefs can win a lot of games with Smith at QB is a syatem adapted to fit his strengths.

However, if the system isn't adjusted, this could easily be a 5 win team, at best, if Smith is asked to do the things he isn't capable of doing.

But at the end of the day, I don't believe there's any way that Alex Smith can lead a team to a SB with his limitations.

And when it's all said and done, I am too ****ing old to care about winning a lot of games if none of it leads to winning a SB.
See right there- you stated your opinion- clear and concise. Backed it up with facts to support your opinion. This is why people respect your thoughts on football. All the name calling is beneath you- but if thats what you think you need to do.

I was a season ticket holder for the DT years- when we had the Best D in football- but could not get a first down to save our life. And all through the Trent and Priest years when it was just the opposite. I sat out there in heat one game and then the next week with a sunburn and practically got flooded down the stairs-lol So I am a "True fan" which is now considered a bad thing. I have been to more games than years most on here have been alive-lol Its great to run your mouth as an expert- but if you were not at the Ghost town arrowhead of the 70's and 80's you cant appreciate how fun it was in those two periods for the chiefs fans.

I want the same thing as you- a SB win- or for gods sake a playoff win would be a start. But for next year an Improvement of the miserable year last year- would be....

1. Alex not turning the ball over and at least putting this team in a position to be competitive in every game. It will take the whole team to win- I agree that he has not shown to be a "franchise' type to put the whole team on his back.

2. Not geting our asses handed to us by the faiders at home for the how many times in a row- truly pathetic- and yes I was at the home openers we lost with fader fans dressed like darth vader screaming in my ear.

3. Not getting blown out in our Home Opener. If you cant come out and have some fire the first game- forget it. The Bills blowout was the worst game I have Ever attended. **** the Bills.

4. Arrowhead coming back to what it used to be. Fun, Loud, a tough place to play for the other team. Hell rookie QB's were winless there for years. Bring back the Leaf Factor. Yes I was at that game when the chiefs put him into retirement and onto a life of crime.

5. A hard hitting, tough team, that nobody wants to play. The DT years teams dreaded playing us- ask the Bills on Monday night- still one of the greatest games I was ever at. We embarrassed them. Ask Steve Young who DT hit so hard he was puking on the field. I want to see some smart hard hitting football.

If we do these five things- we have a chance at the division and then a playoff win ect. Something to build on for the future.

So call me a halfwit and stoopid muther whatever. But I have been there for this team thick and thin since I was a kid- and i hope to hell we are back on track to being respectable again.
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thanks for your input- yes technically your right. He sure looked like a rookie to end the game. I hate the ravens- it sucks he choked so bad. Maybe with last season under his best and the expierence he has now- he will make that play next time.
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See right there- you stated your opinion- clear and concise. Backed it up with facts to support your opinion. This is why people respect your thoughts on football. All the name calling is beneath you- but if thats what you think you need to do.

I was a season ticket holder for the DT years- when we had the Best D in football- but could not get a first down to save our life. And all through the Trent and Priest years when it was just the opposite. I sat out there in heat one game and then the next week with a sunburn and practically got flooded down the stairs-lol So I am a "True fan" which is now considered a bad thing. I have been to more games than years most on here have been alive-lol Its great to run your mouth as an expert- but if you were not at the Ghost town arrowhead of the 70's and 80's you cant appreciate how fun it was in those two periods for the chiefs fans.

I want the same thing as you- a SB win- or for gods sake a playoff win would be a start. But for next year an Improvement of the miserable year last year- would be....

1. Alex not turning the ball over and at least putting this team in a position to be competitive in every game. It will take the whole team to win- I agree that he has not shown to be a "franchise' type to put the whole team on his back.

2. Not geting our asses handed to us by the faiders at home for the how many times in a row- truly pathetic- and yes I was at the home openers we lost with fader fans dressed like darth vader screaming in my ear.

3. Not getting blown out in our Home Opener. If you cant come out and have some fire the first game- forget it. The Bills blowout was the worst game I have Ever attended. **** the Bills.

4. Arrowhead coming back to what it used to be. Fun, Loud, a tough place to play for the other team. Hell rookie QB's were winless there for years. Bring back the Leaf Factor. Yes I was at that game when the chiefs put him into retirement and onto a life of crime.

5. A hard hitting, tough team, that nobody wants to play. The DT years teams dreaded playing us- ask the Bills on Monday night- still one of the greatest games I was ever at. We embarrassed them. Ask Steve Young who DT hit so hard he was puking on the field. I want to see some smart hard hitting football.

If we do these five things- we have a chance at the division and then a playoff win ect. Something to build on for the future.

So call me a halfwit and stoopid muther whatever. But I have been there for this team thick and thin since I was a kid- and i hope to hell we are back on track to being respectable again.
Sorry, Half, but I struggle with mature and reasonable posting when I see the juvenile nature of posts like yours.

That isn't intended to be an insult.
It is simply an observation of your style.

And yes, I recognize that my responses are also juvenile in nature.
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[QUOTE=milkman;9690503]Sorry, Half, but I struggle with mature and reasonable posting when I see the juvenile nature of posts like yours.

That isn't intended to be an insult.
It is simply an observation of your style.

And yes, I recognize that my responses are also juvenile in nature.[/QUOT

Yep you are right- when I see things swing soo far to one way like it has with the Alex trade- I tend to jump on the other side to level things out-lol I would think the "bad ass" stuff people saw through that as my way of showing their opinion was equally absurd- but they took it as I was his biggest fan.

I was on SNR's Geno band wagon briefly until it became obvious he was far from a #1 pick. This was a terrible year to get ANY QB let alone a future Brees or Rogers. Time will tell in the draft. Some wanted us to draft Bray as a QBOTF- and we picked him up for nothing. So all in all we upgraded our QB position accross the board form the absolute worst in NFL history to being competitive at least. What more could we do This year??

I was Not happy at all bringing in another stop gap- but it was pretty much their best option. My point was why call Alex every name in the book? It is childish and after so many weeks has grown repetitive and annoying.

I will try not to stir the pot so much-lol People dont seem to realize when I am being just as absurd as they are- but on the opposite side. I will be glad when this board balances out some and a few posters take their meds and simmer down with the hate-lol I will try not to be soo positive either- it definately gets on peoples nerves-lol
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thanks for your input- yes technically your right. He sure looked like a rookie to end the game. I hate the ravens- it sucks he choked so bad. Maybe with last season under his best and the expierence he has now- he will make that play next time.
I can't even understand what you are trying to say here.

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