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Old 07-01-2013, 11:12 PM   #1
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This is a situation that while violent, i wish the officer had employed the bas rutten method for dealing with medium to large size animals.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:14 PM   #2
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I'm too lazy to try and post it from my phone but you should look up what bas thinks about lions. A quick Google search should do it.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:12 PM   #3
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Why couldn't they have sprayed it or tazed it first? Pulling out the pistol is easy mode.

The dog was being a good dog. Protecting his owner from what he perceived as bad guys. The dog just sort of jumped at the cop. I mean, even hit it with your stick

Why should killing be the first option?
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:26 PM   #4
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Why couldn't they have sprayed it or tazed it first? Pulling out the pistol is easy mode.

The dog was being a good dog. Protecting his owner from what he perceived as bad guys. The dog just sort of jumped at the cop. I mean, even hit it with your stick

Why should killing be the first option?
Tazing probably wouldn't work. You have one shot that's it, hitting a smallish rapidly moving target is no sure thing and if you miss you can't grab your gun before the dog is on top of you at that range(and the other cops can't shoot once the dog is on you because of the risk of hitting you). If they were further away maybe. One other bit about tazers a lot of cops aren't equipped with them because there's always the risk in the heat of the moment that instead of grabbing the taser you grab your gun thinking its your taser. Tazers can be less safe oddly.

I'm not sure about the pepper spray but I'd guess that's in an inconvenient place on their belts. If you think about most uses for pepper spray it's not for quick reaction. In quick moments training and muscle memory take over and I'm sure they aren't trained for fast pepper spray response.

If they had led with the pepper spray at start maybe, but you can see the guy trying to get the leash at the start. Maybe that we his bad choice he should have just sprayed him to begin with. But I think it's clear he didn't approach the dog with the intent to shoot. He shot when it was too close and risky to do much else.

As to batoning the dog, two things...first you have to get the baton out fast again it's not something that is designed for a quick draw. Second I'd wager that at the distance the dog was at and it's size, you hit it with the billy club and you're just going to piss it off.

Mostly likely it got too close and he had to react quickly, training and muscle memory took over and that's to draw and fire.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:13 PM   #5
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I want to know what they charged the guy with.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:15 PM   #6
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Cops should be paid far more than what they are, but they need years of training and should have to pass a very high bar of qualifications.

It's not a surprise we have so many issues with cops given how often they dredge for hires.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:19 PM   #7
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Cops should be paid far more than what they are, but they need years of training and should have to pass a very high bar of qualifications.

It's not a surprise we have so many issues with cops given how often they dredge for hires.
Yeah, we know your feelings on "underpaid" fellow government employees.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:22 PM   #8
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http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_2...g-arrest-owner

There's the full story as to what the poor, innocent man was doing prior to getting "arrested for no reason." Dude is a straight up, lawsuit chasing, ****tard. The only thing that's a shame about this deal is that he wasn't the one getting shot instead of the poor dog.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:29 PM   #9
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http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_2...g-arrest-owner

There's the full story as to what the poor, innocent man was doing prior to getting "arrested for no reason." Dude is a straight up, lawsuit chasing, ****tard. The only thing that's a shame about this deal is that he wasn't the one getting shot instead of the poor dog.
Welllllll....that's interesting. Apparently interfering with police business isn't a crime where ever Just Passin' By comes from.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:33 PM   #10
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Welllllll....that's interesting. Apparently interfering with police business isn't a crime where ever Just Passin' By comes from.
Interfering with police business? He had a radio on. The cops are claiming that they were arresting a man, and shot his dog, because they thought his car radio was too loud. That's the same car radio that wasn't too loud on the video we got from the other party.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:35 PM   #11
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Interfering with police business? He had a radio on.
Yeah...and I'm the idiot here...
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:43 PM   #12
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Interfering with police business? He had a radio on.
Are you ****ing serious? He had his radio blaring, as was evident in the video we watched, and such was self-described by dipshit suspect, and also described by an independent witness at the scene. Also reported by dipshit suspect and the witness is that the police ASKED him to turn his music down, and he refused, instead telling the police that it was his "****ing" radio. The officers were on scene of a high-risk, armed-subject and didn't need this ****tard showing up causing another scene to distract them from the serious matter at hand. **** this idiot and any one who sympathizes with him.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:50 PM   #13
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Are you ****ing serious? He had his radio blaring, as was evident in the video we watched, and such was self-described by dipshit suspect, and also described by an independent witness at the scene. Also reported by dipshit suspect and the witness is that the police ASKED him to turn his music down, and he refused, instead telling the police that it was his "****ing" radio. The officers were on scene of a high-risk, armed-subject and didn't need this ****tard showing up causing another scene to distract them from the serious matter at hand. **** this idiot and any one who sympathizes with him.
The guy was a dumbass who should have kept the dog in the car in the first place. I'm not sympathizing with him. Him being a dumbass doesn't make the actions of the police right, though.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:23 PM   #14
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the majority of the officers in the film appear to be armed with MP5 variants, which iirc aren't standard issue for regular police but are for SWAT.
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The dog jumped at the cop, it's a Rotweiller. It could eat your face in one bite.

The dog owner is to blame. The cop did nothing wrong imo.
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